Have you ever been put on a pip? But have been a fine PM elsewhere?

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Yes, and survived two from the same manager. I personally find Pips either a crutch for bad managers or to hold people accountable who don’t do their job. Sounds like you might in scenario number 1, which was my case.

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Usually, a management issue or your vibe doesn't mesh well with the account team/management in general. I would look elsewhere asap

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I've had to put team members on a pip and every time it was due to inputs from the Account Management team. Knowing my team members were good at what they were doing i worked with the people on the call outs so after the pip period was over the issues were addressed. I find account looks for ways to blame others and so often the PM is the one they blame. Your manager, if they truly support you, should help you and manage the situation.

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Unbelievable how accurate this was in my situation. Looks like this is a common occurrence.

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They pipped you twice? And you survived both?! Ur a Legand

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I did end up getting laid off a few months later but the manager resigned way before that. I was young and reckless, never again.

Best way to come out is to look at the list of things listed as shortcomings and leaning in, paper trailing that you’ve overcome that shortcoming

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proud to be a manager who turned a PIP employee around into a shining star within the department! I'm a big believer that given the time & attention, folks can be trained and survive a PIP. But if I had to put someone on a PIP 2x, it's likely more of an effort thing

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