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Depends on the situation. If it's in an interview (they shouldn't ask, but they always do) then I usually dodge the question by saying "well I'm looking to make..." and then inflate to what I should be making.
They aren't usually ballsy enough to ask your current salary again.
People who tell you not to lie are often the sort doing the hiring. For the rest of us, you kind of have to do it sometimes. There's no way I'd have ever caught up with my male colleagues without lying because sexism is such a huge factor in my subfield.
It's sad that my salary is so below-market that I could exaggerate it by 20% and it'd still be totally, 💯 believable.
Yep, lied about my salary after getting an offer. Exaggerated by $10K. Ended up with a $20K increase when I am certain I would have been low-balled for a $10K increased had I not
I make $1.3M.
Yes. Unless it's at an agency within the same holding company as your current agency because they can access your salary info.
Recruiters talk so no. I’d just refuse to tell them your salary. There are new laws in some states that now protect you from recruiters low balling you. If they really push you, I’d just say: “my TOTAL compensation package is between ____.”
Then give the higher end of the range in the going market rate for your respective position, agency and city.
It's now illegal for them to ask you what your current salary is, anyways. Just say what your salary expectations are, rather than what you're making at the moment.
No. Just don't tell them your current salary. You're giving up negotiating leverage if you do, and lying about it is never a good answer.
They'll try to play hardball, but I'd walk from negotiations if they tried to force it. Tell them a number as your negotiating start point (not a range, a single number). Then negotiate it based on the other benefits they're offering (vacation days, 401k, insurance, parking, maternity/paternity, etc.). That shit adds up to tens of thousands of dollars. Do the math on it, and take it into consideration.
Bonus promises are great, but they're just that-don't bank on them.
If it's a bad deal for you, don't be afraid to walk...unless you need it really, really bad.
I always say "I'm looking to make..." or "I'm looking to move for...". I do my best to avoid it.
If it gets pushed, then shit yeah I'll lie about it.
A. That question is only asked to take away your leverage.
B. They're going to do every damn thing they can do to get me in their door as cheaply as possible, so I don't feel an ounce of guilt doing everything I can to get me in there as expensively as possible.
Eat them or they'll eat you. Period.
I never lie. They ask, I tell them the truth. But I also tell them what I would need to move and hold firm. It can come off as audacious if you want a lot more than you currently make. I had a recruiter tell me I was asking for too much of a jump from my current salary so I told her I was worth every penny. I got the salary I was asking for 3 months later. My 2 cents, YMMV.
It's not illegal in NY until the end of this month.
@CW1, your opening was solid, then you ran the joke into the ground by over-explaining. :)
Not illegal everywhere, just nyc. I think 90% of the time, they aren’t going to know if you lie, but do you really want to risk being that 10%?
Everyone exaggerates. Exaggerate up, then ask for more on top of it. Be sure, however, to review your market value on glassdoor so you're not throwing out a ridiculous number.
Thank you guys so much for your help. Seems like it’s a pretty split crowd - again...lol
I’m definitely underpaid at the moment and moving cross country for a role they designed for me with A LOT more responsibility. I know I’d need to make a huge jump but perhaps I just need to play hardball and tell them I know my worth as suggested.
I just tell them what I want to make. What I currently make is irrelevant, because it’s a different company, with different budgets, plus there are some jobs I would take for less money/better opportunity, or vice versa. So I just politely decline to share and tell them what I’m looking for.
I always add on at least 20 or 30K which means that they add on another 20 or 30 to up it. My last two salary jumps have been 50k each time.
You don't have to lie if you never tell them your salary and you just tell them they need to offer what you what you're worth
Depends on the woman I’m on a date with.