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I am Offered 29.5fixed by PwC for SA (L2). Currently on 25fixed. Should I join ? In terms of WLB.! My current employer on fishbowl shows Deloitte but have left Deloitte a year back. Currently in a firm with good WLB but PWFH is a big win for me that PwC is offering.
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This person has clearly demonstrated that they think highly of themselves to the point of being blatantly narcissistic. Like you, I would have explained that the position reports to me and I am not lacking experience or leadership and ended the interview.
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Unrelated, there is considerable hubris in your self-described eminence and industry credentials, while simultaneous describing your candidate as merely “decent”.
Confidence can be powerful when paired with actual humility.
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So of course you’re not offering them the role
They didn’t do their homework before the interview. Clearest hurdle there is and they didn’t bother. Now imagine them doing that with a client. No.
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Aside from lack of research, it sounds like this person doesn’t really want a job. I am surprised that someone actually made this comment in an interview.
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WOW I think some ppl use a lot of words to sound overly educated and important when all they need to say is … move on.
So someone made a snide and classless remark…. Ok? I could also be considered a target these days, a young and cis white blonde thin female, seemingly VERY susceptible to judgement within my leadership role. It WILL happen … move on. Not every moment needs to be made into a hallmark movie. Get. Over. It. And move in. You’re the boss, you’re the one in the seat with the control, so … ultimately what does it even matter in the slightest what someone who was merely being considered for a role thinks? They don’t matter. At ALL. So move on and let it go. Someone that holds no value to you doesn’t get the privilege of taking up space in your emotional bank of importance.
If you want someone to care you can’t then be upset that they care too much. Nothing and no one is perfect.
The candidate's commit is not ok and they have their own bias to work through. However, sounds like you also have an ego to work on.
I get what the person said during the interview. But was this in regards to a specific question?
I was a director in my 20s and heard all sorts of similar things from applicants and almost retiree co-workers. But I had to also take this in stride for the flip side ageism bias. You didn’t want to work with someone with 20–50 years of experience.
I would check with your HR on how they would like to respond do not send anything via email. Have a voice discussion with your HR rep.
My feedback would be something along the lines that the person’s answers made the candidate appeared unprepared for the interview.
I have a hard time sympathizing with someone who is “struggling” with being conventionally attractive in the workplace. Pretty privilege is real, and im sorry you didn’t benefit from it this time.
And yeah I wouldn’t hire this person either.
@senior associate because it shows your lack of awareness and ability to put yourself in someone elses shoes. This is the problem… women suffer bias throughout their career! It starts with too young not enough experience, work like crazy to achieve then people cut down tall poppys, then we finally make it and are achievements are marginalized, then we hit our older years and ageism is real. This is a problem!! When there is a male candidate his appearance is taken into account 1 way are they professional. When its a woman it becomes 35% and no matter if we are young, old, feminine, masculine, skinny,fat, short, tall it all is taken into account more than it would be if we were male. So yes this is bias. If she has the experience and she is professional this is all that should matter. She should receive the same respect regardless of how young they think she looks.
What did they mean when they said that?
Ohhh, thanks for sharing that. Must have been awkward to say something after that.
I don’t think that it’s bias so much as inflexibility, thinking too much of themselves, and not being able to be part of the team. Wouldn’t hire. Wouldn’t give feedback - why? They can move on to someplace else that is a better fit for them
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I’m not explaining bias to any white person who exhibits the thought patterns this person did. It’s a waste of my time.
Honestly, be thankful! What if you ended up hiring him and he would show his attitude then? It’s sucks to go through something like that in the moment, but at the end of the day, it all works out for the best!
Sounds like you conduct good interviews to expose the candidate trait. He opted himself out. He can pay himself looking in the mirror all day and everyday.
Hey ladies, I’m gonna brag, boast, exaggerate, and pump up my own head and totally tell tall teals because I think it’s funny. Honestly, I wouldn’t have hired the OP.
Don’t rush and if it takes time to find the right person, then be patient. Red flags are there for a reason; trust your gut. You’re managing this person so if there’s an inherent bias towards you that may be tougher to “coach”. It’s easier to hire than fire someone.
I'd like to play devil’s advocate here. It appears that most criticism is directed towards the candidate for being biased, but we must also acknowledge the potential biases in our own assessment. Without sufficient context, it's premature to judge the candidate solely based on a single statement. Questions arise: 1) What was the conversation about when the candidate made that remark? 2) Was the candidate junior or senior? 3) Were they expressing a lack of confidence in reporting to someone experienced, or were they being just rude and arrogant? We lack the necessary information to make a fair judgment or recommendation on whether to hire this person. It's concerning that, instead of seeking clarification from the candidate, the interviewer chose to share a biased interpretation possibly influenced by past experiences regarding their youthful appearance. Before reaching any conclusions, we should strive to understand the situation fully and consider all perspectives. So my recommendation for the interviewer is to seek to understand that statement from the candidate before making the hiring decision, specially if she still thinks the candidate is a good fit.
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How do you handle such an attitude and lack of due diligence ?
You don’t hire them. Don’t make them your pet project