I am getting a new boss in a couple weeks. I was in line to get her job but was passed up because I am on the younger side and have had some disagreements with management. My new boss has no experience in the industry and is not qualified for the role. I am hoping she fails but want her to perceive that I am helping her. I ultimately want her job. How do I approach this?

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You’re toxic and should quit. Seriously, this is disgusting.

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This is why you don’t have the job.

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The bad news is you’re planning on seeking advice to sabotage her the good news is that you are young enough to change your attitude. Although she might not know the industry, people who are experienced know how to ask the right questions and that’s how they tend to bring innovation to an industry. Even an accounting. My advice would be to help her out and make as many contributions as you can. If you don’t get recognized, take your new learnings to another company and continue to progress with a positive attitude. Good luck!

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Going to try and provide something helpful instead of stating the obvious.

Your statement indicates that perhaps you aren’t mature enough to handle being the boss. You also mention that you’ve had some disagreements with management which again by the way your statement reads you probably didn’t handle these disagreements well and it kind of indicates that you may be problematic and don’t handle issues in a work environment well.

If you were passed up for a job I would use this as an opportunity to maybe learn and assess why that was. I would be very helpful to the new boss because it could also change managements perception of you and perhaps show that you are more than a team player and maybe increase your chances for a similar promotion down the line. And if by some odd chance the new boss fails and you’ve stepped up in a POSITIVE way you could ultimately end up with the role anyway (think genuine good karma points here). If you automatically go at it from a negative perspective hoping for their ultimate failure it honestly won’t bode well for you in the long run to “seem helpful” because that ultimately shows zero growth on your end and you honestly wouldn’t last as the boss under those circumstances either.

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Many years ago, the same thing happened to me. Although I was disappointed in not getting the job, or even considered for it, I realized it was NOT the fault of my incoming boss. He was completely blameless and the issue was with me. I looked inside myself and saw someone I didnt recognize. The first day I met my new boss I told him it would be my mission to help him succeed, because if he succeeds then i succeed. Fast forward a few years and he becomes a great mentor, someone I learned so much from. We became such a good duo that he promoted me two different times over the years. I credit my growth and career to this man. The lesson here is that you need to look inside of yourself and realize nobody is trying to hurt you. Maybe you do need to grow, like i did. Count yourself lucky if she becomes a friend and mentor lile my manager is/was. Both of you have things to learn from each other. Remember, if she grows, you grow.

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You want someone to fail at their job so you shine? Think you need a hard look in the mirror if that’s your outlook

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No wonder you didn’t get the job.

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Y’know might get some flack by saying this but I do feel you’re validated in being upset. I’m going through something similar at the moment and it’s left a very bitter taste in my mouth.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I do strongly disagree with how you’re going about things. I don’t know everything but I’m pretty confident she took the job cause she needed the money not cause she wanted to piss you off.

As others have said I agree it’s time for you to leave. Not cause you said you want her to fail but because I don’t think this role is serving you anymore. Think about it, if managements decisions have made you this bitter why would you want to move up and be closer to them? Even still, say this new girl fails at her role what’s stopping them from just finding someone else?

So yeah I think it’s time to fire up the resume and mentally check out. Find a role in which you’ll feel appreciated.

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Excellent answer.

Promotions aren’t always given to the most qualified person on paper. There are intangibles (examples: maturity, performance under pressure, teaming) that factor into that decision. You are clearly lacking those intangibles.

Instead, why don’t you make your new boss look good and be supportive? In parallel, look for that top spot at another company. You can also encourage your new boss overtime to seek out better opportunities for themselves too. Then if they leave and you are their ally, they’ll recommend you as the successor.

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I think this is one of the best answers. In taking this approach, I'm confident that you'll feel better about yourself in the long run, and you will be adding excellent skills to your resume as well.
(Working well with others in supporting management to thrive; approaching and overcoming challenging situations with positive and protective approach; etc...)

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Honestly, this doesn’t sound like a great approach. Hoping your new boss fails just because you were passed up for a promotion isn’t a good look. If you want her job, prove you’re the right choice by excelling in your role and showing leadership, not by playing games. Focus on what you can control.

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You must be a delight at parties.

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That's funny

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I think you need some mental health counseling. What evil 😈 way to think.

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Management made the decision for a reason. Your new boss had a skill set you need to work on to move up. I’d focus on what that is rather than hoping the boss fails. If you nail it you’ll be next or can take that to a new company. Helping her and you both succeeding is a win win.

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You are your own worst enemy my dear.

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Grow up

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I have a wild idea, if you want her to perceive that you are helping her, then just help her. If she fails and it is because you were secretly only giving her half the relevant information or something, that will almost certainly get figured out and you're going to be the one on the outs. If she fails and you did your best to make her successful then you're actually well positioned the next time around. After you start doing the only thing that is in your best interest here you can work on yourself for why you want others to fail and how your own actions probably put you in the spot where you were passed up. Hopefully you'll realize that life is not a zero sum game and in almost all cases people gain the most when everybody is gaining. Seek the win-wins.

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This happened to me some time ago, except I was the new boss. And the woman who wanted the roll wasn't younger, just not experienced enough to move up to a heavier role. She did as you're thinking of doing. I knew she had wanted the position and I saw right through her tactics. She ended up getting fired... by me, and that was one of the things upper management wanted from me in the first place, without saying as much. My point is... please don't do that, for your own sake.

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Just do your job, give her support. In the end they will notice that, also keep quiet.

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My my bet is your unemployed in three months. Do I have any takers

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I have an experience in the same ballpark. My accountant did this to me. My work was stellar, other than an accidentally number punch. She refused to do her part, while making me enter everything. She then went to the owners stating that I was making mistakes when it was actually her. The only times she would enter items into the system they were wrong. In her words, she took the QB test in a little over an hour and doesn't remember any of it.
After trying to get me fired for 6 months, she finally had me replaced. Which has killed my self esteem.
Shame on you. You are threatening the way someone lives. The only way they make money and you want to make their life hell while you do it. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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some pple are just ugly souls. messed up mind. sad lives they live. who knows what else contribute to their " mental illness" the controller at my place right now is mentally illed ; she d yell and scream at pple with little thing for nothing like in the jungle but I wonder why they cna't get rid of her yet; I can tell they're trying to though. ( shes worked there for 16 yrs or so)

This feels like a fake post to drum up interactions on the platform. If not, you should probably find a new place to work.

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Your plan to get ahead is noteworthy and has been used by many

Yeah it is kinda gross but not at all rare

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