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I don't get that either... it makes me feel so undervalued, they need someone quick, but what about quality? it feels backward to throw big salaries at quick fixes instead of investing in the people who actually committed to the profession. Supporting new teachers with better pay and giving experienced ones a real reason to stay would make way more sense long-term.
As a career-switcher myself, I can see both sides. Of course, I did get training and all the coursework needed for a masters in education, on top of my existing masters. But to have my 15 years of experience completely discounted was tough. Keep in mind that I had done corporate training, I had 15 years of real world experience in the subjects I was going to be teaching, I had 3 teenagers of my own and I had informal classroom experience through volunteering in their schools. I was able to negotiate step 2. I think maybe 1/2 credit toward step might have been fair (so step 7). I really was way ahead of the 20-something first year teachers in terms of being able to do the job.
Agreed. But I was way ahead of the 22 year-old BA with none of that experience.
I don't think outside experience should count one for one, or career switchers should get huge premiums. But my content knowledge was way better, I had been doing lesson planning for years, my ability to engage with parents and families was already there, and I was already good at networking with other adults in the building. When I walked into that classroom on day one, I had authority and I knew how to set boundaries and motivate students. I mentioned I was a corporate trainer: you think teens are unengaged? Try adults with cellphones who don't want to be there. And there's no admin in that situation. Plus running girl scout troops and enrichment classes where I was responsible for what happened there (but no real measurement of student progress). Definitely ahead of what I see coming out of teacher prep programs. And I say that now, as a 20 year vet who has mentored several new teachers and shared my classroom with student teachers. Our current system relies on a lot of OJT.
Because that would make too much sense 😉
At Target you can start at $17 per hour. Amazon $22 per hour.
Substitute teacher$15 per hour.
Wow! Why is there a sub shortage.
I know it would cause many fiscal, budget problems. If you paid the subs $30 per hour, there may not be a sub shortage.
Great point! We should make the best of both: new teachers and experienced teachers they all have something our students and our new generation need. The idea of how they both got paid shouldn’t be an issue. We should follow the payment procedure. May we have understanding, discerning eyes, and enough wisdom to make decisions for our future, students and schools.
Right? It feels like a temporary fix that doesn't really address the existing problem of chronic poor pay. I'm sure some will be wooed by these moves, but I don't think it's going to solve the shortage issue any time soon.
Obviously it'd be reciprocal, right? A retired teacher who gets another job is going to be gifted 30 years worth of promotions, obviously.
That would be wrong. But if these new hires' experience means that they do have skills that a 22 year old BA does not have, then it could be reasonable. Not to give them one-for-one credit for each year they did something else, but some portion.
But fairness has never driven salaries, either in or out of education. It's all about supply and demand, with a touch of luck and who you know.
Going through the process to become a teacher….that hardly prepares one to be a teacher. It is required to be certified, hired, and pay union dues. That’s about the value of going through the process. Why not hire the people who actually can teach and pay them a respectable salary whether or not they are”state certified “?
Amen!!
Because they somehow feel that other industries are better people than just people that wanted to become teachers? That makes no sense. I like how some movies and such make it so that retired business people have this dream to retire and become a teacher. Like it's so easy and relaxing.