I started the JD next program yesterday and am so happy there’s an alternative to the LSAT. I know a lot of people are against the program because it’s new, but a standardized test cannot determine the type of future attorney I will be.

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OP good luck.

But it’s not a real alternative. You can check the ABA’s 509 disclosures. Only a small handful of incoming 1L’s got their spot with just a JDN.

A standardized test (LSAT) is actually pretty good at indicating whether you WILL become an attorney.

We’re not against it because it’s new; we don’t like it because it’s making promises that are fake, and preying on a vulnerable group. It’s a similar scam as “non-accredited” schools.

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I went down that "non accredited school route" they told me they were fully accredited. Had to spend a day at a fully accredited school to get half a credit to get a fully accredited high school diploma. So I have 2 high school diplomas. Also. Fix your shit. It's a similar scam to non accredited or even It's similar to the scam of non accredited...

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I think there is a minimum LSAT score at which both you and schools should be worried about your ability to pass the bar - probably below 150. Most folks who I know who couldn’t pass 150 either never passed the bar or took 4-5 times.

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That’s great, but surely you understand that exceptions don’t make the rule.

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Very few law schools give the weight you are hoping for to JD Next. I did well on JD Next, but just can't get a solid LSAT. I have more than two decades of experience as a complex litigation Paralegal (note: not a glorified secretary; I draft motions, research, write, and consult with experts), but because of the reporting law schools do, I have been rejected.

JD Next is a decent metric to show if you are able to handle the doctrinal work in law school, but unfortunately, it does not actually substitute the LSAT.

I strongly, STRONGLY, encourage you to work on getting that LSAT score up, but also make sure you don't take it too many times to get locked out of retakes (my mistake - i cant take it again until 2029).

Good luck!

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I’ve taken it 3 times. I didn’t know there was an amount of times before you got locked out? That’s crazy

No it can't. But it can determine whether you get into law school lol

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They went to Toledo, Capital, Case Western and NKU

Have you tried studying for the LSAT or taking a PT? Thousands of people get accepted to law school with the LSAT and very few people (I think less than 200) were accepted to law schools with the JDN. I’m with you on standardized testing, but your odds of actually getting into law school with the JDN are not great

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Good luck! It’s good there’s a new path, because LSAT is not outcome determinative. I could never get my score up much because I’m a slow reader. That has never hindered my actual career

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The LSAT is highly predictive of success in law school. You might be able to overcome low aptitude with hard work but, if you’re a hard worker and bad at the LSAT, you’re probably better off doing something else.

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OP if you’re absolutely determined to do this and will throw any amount of effort at it, spend 3 months prepping for the LSAT.

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Hi, I noticed you took the Kaplan LSAT course. I honestly haven’t heard the best feedback about it. I’d probably recommend looking into LSAT Demon and possibly getting some one-on-one help from an LSAT tutor. I’ve also heard really good things about 7Sage and the The PowerScore LSAT Bibles. Those seem to be the programs I see most often connected to really high LSAT scores. I've been told to stay away from Kaplan, Khan academy.

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Didn’t they already water down the LSAT by removing the logic section (the hardest section)?

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I heard they added a second section of logic games? And they took away the ability to take it online

If you haven’t taken the LSAT, how do you know your can’t do well, especially if you prepare? Take a prep course and follow the path that actual lawyers follow to enter the profession. As a lawyer, I spent enough years on my firms’ hiring committees to know that those who took a lesser path won’t even be considered for associate positions at most firms. By taking this lower risk non-option, you are severely limiting your opportunities. If you don’t want to do the work necessary to apply to a legitimate law school, you don’t really want to be a lawyer and practice law.

I have taken the LSAT and I got a 136. I took a prep course through Kaplan also and the professor said lawyers only take cases they know they can win so only answer the questions you know are 100% correct and this was clearly bad advise.

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