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Hourly . They use and abuse u on salary
Chief
I can see that happening in some companies.
I have been both. More than once.
Salaried = consistent pay.
= hours cut you still work 40.
= a call out - you’ll prolly go in.
= budget cut? Well, Good luck.
Hourly = fairly consistent pay
= x + 1/2 for OT at min.
= you go home, you stay home
=
Chief
That all makes sense. But where I work Salaried workers make significantly more to help offset the responsibility.
I would much rather work hourly. My sister was a warehouse manager for years at Costco and she worked her a** off! Stayed over everyday. Atleast when you have to stay over you get compensated for it.
Our company expects me to work 50+ a week on salary…. I barely make more than my employees at just 40 a week
For me, this depends entirely upon a few factors, like; industry, position, company culture, whether in a manager or individual contributor, and turnover rate.
For office labor, I usually prefer salary. For ANY job where physical labor is involved, I’ll almost always take hourly.
People often say companies abuse salaried workers, but I think it’s case by case. Ultimately, a salaried worker had to sign paperwork detailing the needs of the job. A lot of people accept these roles without actually understanding what is expected of them, and that’s their own fault. They need to wisen up and stop complaining about something they willingly signed up for. 99% of the time, they never attempted to negotiate during the hiring phase OR signing phase. I always try to negotiate a better deal for myself.
Now to be more specific, I’ve mostly worked between Sales and Operations. In most cases, I prefer salary for these. But I don’t think I’d ever want to be salary as an IT worker. ALMOST EVERY company I worked for has salaried IT staff working all the time due to a terribly constructed on-call rotation. That’s a hard pass for me. IT abuse is DEFINITELY a thing.
That being said, most salaried jobs I’ve had I was paid full-time, but actually worked part-time due to completing my workload faster, so it was a net-positive for me. Of course there were times when I worked 12+ hour days, or had to work a double when someone called out, or I had to fire someone, but like I said, I signed up for that.
I have a second job where I’m 100% on-call, but I set my availability to ONLY be between 6pm-11pm. So they can call me in ANY day of the week, but only during those hours. That’s what I agreed to, and they respect that.
Read your employment agreement thoroughly, and negotiate something beneficial for yourself if you can. My work-life balance improved significantly once I started advocating for myself.
Chief
Great advice!
Personally if the salary is $80k + then yes. At the end of the day ppl need to pay bills and take care of what they need to. Depending on other companies, there are perks. Bonuses, raises, and extra benefits hourlys do not get.
But again, as said above, hourly goes home and stays home. And that times and a half pay. But as manager I’ve been able to leave earlier on holidays or special events because I am the “boss” while hourly stays whole shift and misses the turkey at thanksgiving. It’s hard to find but for hourly i wouldn’t work below $15-$17 per… anything less is change.
No you can have multiple flexible jobs that total to what a salary could make. 3 jobs that all work around your availability. If you make at least $300 a day i believe that’s $100k per year. Up to you which short stick you can or rather take.
Chief
That’s kinda how I feel. The pay level is the deciding factor of whether or not it’s worth it.
FYI if you’re salaried, and you aren’t managing people or in a specifically exempt position, you may still be due overtime pay by law.
Chief
Interesting
Salery is best in my opinion. I have done the hourly route for years and just battling to get a .50 cent increse is ridiculus. Last place was supposed to be salery but turned into hourly. With creative paper work. But guy was a slime ball and screawed with everyones checks. Got tired of it and got offered a salery gig. Took it in a heart beat. Now i can at least budget correctly. Plus came with full bennies and pto.
Yes ot is good in some situation but it isnt geranteed and nether are your hours. You couple budget for a full 40 week but start getting anyware from 22 to 32 with no really notice. At least with salery you get what was promised and there are usally bonuses for hitting sertant metrics.
Chief
All good reasons to take a salaried position.
Hourly.
Chief
But what if there is a ceiling on how much you can earn?
Hourly for sure.
Chief
Even if it means being stuck below a certain earning level?
Salary but only because that’s how you continue to climb up the ladder.
Chief
See, that’s what I am looking for.
I have worked both. I prefer salary because it's a promissory cheque issued for the same amount, and anything over that is paid in lieu time. I had three weeks off for vacation...that was sweet! Whereas hourly, you could lose a shift or be short changed having to visit HR to troubleshoot the whys. Also, you may not be paid that extra time after running around and finished a tad early. Salary is more reliable.
Chief
Definitely makes budgeting easier.
I’ve never had salary before but from what I’ve read here, I’ll stick with hourly. The OT and holiday pay is a must for extra money.
Chief
My OT and holiday pay is still below what a salaried position pays.
More work for same amount of pay!
Chief
Sometimes, not always
This so true hourly is much better.
Chief
I like hourly but want a salaried roll.
Always Salaried
if you are able to set boundaries with other people and not take on additional workload salary is always the better choice because within a year of doing your job, you can decrease the hours that you work in essence increases your hourly pay, even though your salary might remain static.
So if I get paid 100 K to eight hours a day, 40 hours a week, 52 weeks in a year that is an hourly salary of $48.08/hr.
if I can get that down to six hours a day or 30 a week, I make $64.10/hr
4hr/day; 20hr/week gets me $96.15/hr
So choose salaried and get more efficient at your job then work less hours overtime you will make more money you will also work from home and then you can spend that additional time either relaxing or catching up on chores, then you won’t be as tired and burnt out on weekends!
Chief
That’s an awesome way to break it down!
Chief
All true but at least where I work the compensation is MUCH higher to help balance those expectations.
Hourly