I've had truly awful experiences working for accountants (CPAs) in the past few years. (FYI I worked many years ago for an accountant who was an excellent leader.) There was lot of catty backroom gossip and sh*t-talking, terrible advice from ego-stroking advisors, and really bad management decisions. They were good at the numbers I guess, but moral code, not so much. Don't they do leadership testing/training anymore? Anyone else have this experience?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Finding a good office environment is really hard. On the 50 years I have worked, I counts only 5 places of work that was a great environment. That's really bad. Your current office environment is "the normal" unfortunately. My advice: be pleasant and polite. Don't give anyone ammo to use against you. Go in do your work, smile and go home. Haters gonna hate. Drama queens gonna drama. If anything: pop popcorn while watching the drama. Just a suggestion!

likesmarthelpful

I've never really had that experience, but what I have experienced is that they always have the statistics on your performance and they ask for your input on it and then just give you the same pay increase as you got last year and I guess that's what you begin to think your performance is worth, the same but a little bit more. On top of that you get to see your performance as compared to your fellow colleagues and you see you are highly out performing then 2 or 3 to one. Yet you never receive a high pay increase and you never get asked about becoming a manager and what that entails. I find that to be truly a disservice to the employee they manage. The answer is not a moral problem, just a management style that doesn't really serve the employee(s) they manage. The saying a job well done just gets you more and more work, but no real advancement. Putty, I would say in Management performance and Leadership. Excuses like we really can't give out more and we have a limited number of Excellent ratings is the lie, or lack of desire to advocate on behalf of the employees they Manage, therefore this is the moral problem. As a Manager (leader) you do have a ethical and moral obligation to advocate for your employees doing well or exceptionally well as well as develop employees to be better and you do that with finess and care in your approach and it will be different for all Managers, but needs to be done as well as rewarding for a job well done!

To answer your question whether there is testing for managers …as long as “disabled vet” which can range from physical to mental …and can balance a checkbook but not really … and know how to bully…bam you have a manager.

like

Sad, if that is from personal experience! I'm in Canada, FYI - you are prob in the US. I know we have programs for vets too but I've worked with very few (and the one I did work with I have a ton of respect for). This is just flat out disrespect for my profession and unbelievably poor, I would actually say non-existent, people management skills.

I have met calculating and focused types, but I have found that they are also funny and interesting, sometimes even shy. I have made my point clear that numbers tell truth and lies, depending on how you gather them, so relative to your gathering and aim. People and job cutting can be an easy and misleading calculation on savings, but the losses have a ripple effect on the whole economic well being of an economy and there are governmental mitigations, but will not necessarily be used by a devastated employee, without counsel and advising, in both a layoff and quiting scenarios. I like calculators with heart the most, but calculators without one, but it's then the user's requirement to know the difference and make a conscious decision. The quiter needs support directly from employer and government agencies right from the first step.

Related Posts

Hi friends! Anyone looking to sublet an apartment (preferably 1BR) anytime between beginning of September and end of October for a month? I wanna do “trial” month in NYC with a friend - we are both tied to our jobs/other commitments in DC for another year, but would love to experience the city. Thank you!

like

Medicaid plans are so dysfunctional. Has anyone else experienced this? I feel like I’m being gas lighted after working for big commercial enterprises and now working on a Medicaid plan. I’ve never seen so much resistance to change or legit resistance to doing anything to improve operations.

like

If I’m buying something online, like a camera or binoculars, is it unethical to order two competing models so I can try them out side by side and keep one with the intent of returning the other? Really tough to compare when trying to avoid physically going in store.

like

I feel like I'm at my wits end. I teach self-contained classes and according to the ISBE website my classes shouldn't be more than 8 students unless I have an aide - then it can be 10. I have no aide and most of my classes are around 14 kids. Some with behavior plans that are only out of our behavior room setting for my class... Is anybody else out there going through illegal class sizes for self-contained? How are you dealing? Maybe a vent session is in order.

like

📊 Poll: Is Snapchat worth it's 3 billion 💵💵 IPO valuation?

like

If hypothetically I turn down a school because of denied company sponsorship, does that kill my chances of being admitted if I apply again in the future?

like

Hi,

I got my petition approved for H-1B.
Can someone please guide what are the next steps?
In glomo I can see my assignment is completed.
My manager has no clue on what are the next steps and asked me to check with glomo team, what is the approach to reach out to glomo team?

Ease advise.

How is work life balance at Deloitte India?

Do you think Ellen Degeneres will have a comeback?

like

I lateraled to a new firm and feel like I was extremely mislead during interviews. I’m absolutely fine with burning whatever bridges I’ve made here. Contemplating a no-notice resignation. What downsides am I not thinking of? New job is lined up.

likehelpfulfunny

Hey everyone,
I just applied for
Citi bank for an AML compliance analyst position. It’s a hybrid position in Tampa FL. Any feedback on the company, salary, Company values, benefits please and thank you. Citi

like

Any openings for Python/Django profile?
Skills- Python, Django, MongoDB, MySQL, JavaScript, PHP, Laravel

like

Confronting colleagues? Yes or no ? On a side note, any book recommendations for handling workplace situations

like

3L with mostly A’s and B’s. I am having the worst luck trying to find work for after school and my experience working with lawyers has left me completely dejected. I cannot get an interview to save my life. I was so excited to get an externship summer after 2L with a small business and IP firm only to get yelled at on the phone a few times for not doing an assignment correctly. Mind you, I was working FOR FREE as it was a school connected externship. That made me never want to work in the law.

like

Anyone have any good contacts at ARC? I’ve been trying to get in with no response ( account management)

Can I stop getting notified when people join. I don't care when some one from octagon credit investment joins (no one knows it's you tommy).

like

Is anyone or does anyone have a good personal trainer in the NYC area? I’m quite an experienced lifter but have hit a mental (and slightly physical) plateau and would benefit from some coaching. TIA!

like

What are the best hompanies for credit risk analyst profile?

like
like

Additional Posts in Government

Does anyone know if McKinsey hires defense specialist in the expert role or is it only the specialist role with potential to promote.

like

Does anyone have any leads for government contracting roles that involve international travel. I also have a security clearance

like

Thoughts?
I’ve been working at my current company for 11 years, for the past year I have been waiting for a promised promotion. I have been fully remote for 7 years pretty much good work life. Busy. In April they said I have the job still waiting. I am a project accountant III to a finance business manager.Could be long nights &stress. Still unknown pay maybe 20k increase.. Last week I was offered a govt job at NGA (Budget analyst) 40k increase not guaranteed remote. 45 min drive +retirement

like

What's the salary range for a director at the Gilead Sciences foundation? There is a position perfect for me, but I don't want to throw my hat in the ring if starting salary isn't $180-190k. Also, any thoughts on the stability of their philanthropic commitment? There's talk of a recession; I don't want to go private to be cute a few months later.

like

This might be a long shot but I'm looking for a volunteer who is trying to break into a federal career. Maybe a transitioning veteran, recent grad, or career-changer.

I'm pursuing my master career coaching cert and need to do a recorded 45-minute session. You don't have to be identified if you don't want to.

The single session is all I'm asking but could certainly turn into a longer lasting coaching relationship (at no cost), if you like.

like

Does anyone have any tips on how to crossover to governmental affairs? I love government work, but I would like to try it from a different perspective.

like

I currently work in Private (GA) Aviation & have for some time (about 12 years) I’m currently making the switch to the Department of Aviation and am unsure if I should ditch my current job (in private) and go full force with the DOA & embrace this new opportunity educationally and gather as much experience as I can or keep both jobs even though I’d be working 80hr weeks.. I love the private world but am really ready to move up. I don’t know what I should do. Any suggestions?

like

I supervise staff in the public sector that process Medicaid applications and assistance for Medicare. Is their anything in the private sector that pay more than $75,000 in this industry and is remote or hybrid?

like

I’m currently giving referrals to Deloitte for anyone with cyber experience who is cleared to work in the intelligence community and willing to work in the Maryland area, experienced in telecommunications, digital, and computer network technical analysis.

likehelpful

Hi there! I’m currently a committee clerk in the House of Representatives and am looking for private sector job recommendations. I have experience in admin, recruiting, IT, archiving, etc. Any and all advice is appreciated!

like

How much % raise in base salary would you accept in an offer to move from Gov to private?

like
like

Applying to roles within the same federal agency. I know you need one year within the probationary period, but can I apply to a higher GS level? For example, if I'm GS 9, receive a promotion to GS 11 at the end of probation, would i be able to apply to GS 13 roles if I'm qualified? Tried researching this for hours but only found info on applying to other agencies.

like

I’m new here. Can I please get some likes 😩

likefunny

Hi! Anybody knows of federal agencies hiring that are offering fulltime telework/remote?
I currently work for an agency based in DC and my boss is forcing us to come back into the office fulltime after we’ve been remote for nearly two years. Majority of my coworkers have already left for the private sector but I’d like to remain in the public.

likehelpful

My supervisor gave me 8hours of AWOL because I couldn't show up one day because I was under anxiety. I have gave him letters from psychiatrist,psychologist that I'm passing through this. He didn't care and gave me an AWOL. I want to leave my job because my department is very toxic but I don't want to leave having that on my records.
If I move to another job later on (private or federal) this 8 hours of AWOL will show up?

like

If you're a government HR strategy, I/O psych, talent management, organizational design/development professional or consultant, we need you!

Have you heard of OPM's team of strategic HR consultants? Within OPM Human Resources Solutions' HR strategy, there are strategic consultants who operate on a reimbursable basis, similar to a private sector consulting agency.

We have current, developing, and future vacancies for human capital strategists and consultants at the GS-12/13/14/15 levels!

like

I received a TS/SCI job offer upon which I turned down for personal reasons. However, I'd completed a full-scope polygraph in the process and was wondering if I'm eligible for federal contracting roles. Does anybody know how I can determine my clearance status?

likehelpful

Recently completed my MPA and work for a state economic development agency as an analyst. I applied for a public sector consultant position within Baker Tilly; can anyone provide any insight on the job specification, salary, etc?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal