Lately I’ve been thinking about switching from engineering into a more product-focused role. I like solving problems, but I miss being part of the “why” behind what we build. If you made the jump from IC to PM, what surprised you the most? Was it worth giving up the hands-on coding?

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How much all other factors, like internal buy-in, distribution, etc matter just as much as building a great product in order for you to be successful the higher you go in all business oriented roles. Your job isn't just to build a tool but to build a business

Exactly - how good are you with people and managing their expectations?

Maybe you just need to be in an earlier stage company where eng has some of that input

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