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Aw great…. When are you leaving?
Pro
Just because it’s one of the best cities in the country, that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for improvement. Otherwise, people wouldn’t be leaving in droves. Housing, crime, homelessness, sanitation, infestation of rats and cockroaches, subways, and traffic are some issues to start. Folks are so defensive and quick to say “just leave” while completely ignoring the issues they too are dealing with on a regular basis. Let’s be realistic here…
10000% agree. I think we’re on the same team. Those were terrible policies that made no one safer.
But I know the city can do better on crime than it is right now. Im willingly paying a lot of taxes so my elected officially have higher salaries - I expect my mayor, my DA, the NYPD and the heads of departments to steppppp up.
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Ehh New York will be fine. It is and always be the best city in the US
Conversation Starter
Just leave then? Plenty of people are still moving here and enjoy living in the city. It’s hard to find another city with as good of a job market in as attractive of a city
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Rising Star
Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
Yea, a bunch of retired up-staters moving for warmer weather will doom the city. Oh and the few finance bros whose firm is moving to Miami.
Maybe time for you to move out if you dont like it here OP?
Florida and Texas aren’t even low cost of living lol. And wages in both states, especially Florida, are low even with cost of living considered.
Without international immigration, NYC would have a declining population just like the state.
I understand the instinct to defend NYC, but the housing crisis has gotten to ludicrous levels.
I dont blame anyone for bailing. Especially people with kids.
People with kids should leave, and take their annoying kids with them
I tried it, moved from NYC to Texas. Moved back within 2 years. People are... less sophisticated down there, it gets mind numbing after a while and I wouldn't trust the public school system down there with my kids (even in the nice towns tbh).
Which is ridiculous because every borough outside of Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn has a worse quality of life and standard of living than the rest of Texas
Pro
It's the housing costs. Blue states are nimbying themselves to death.
Chief
I'm considering leaving because of that. I can get better quality housing stock in mid tier cities.
Chief
lol. People can't afford housing.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out
With a 20 billion budget deficit, please dont go begging and hope that the Feds will bail NY out again as in 2020.
Instead of building more homes, you have NIMBYISM and rent control. Some of yall need an economics class. You get the government you deserve.
I always love seeing the copium in the replies to these posts. ‘Go to Florida you bum lolol’ guaranteed to rack up the likes instead of people actually acknowledging the very real problems facing the middle/lower class and what can be done about it. Good riddance
Chief
Ppl on Fishbowl don't trend towards the "how can we take care of the problems of the lower/middle class", it seems most ppl are on here to feel better about how they don't have those problems
Go kick rocks
hmmm but 200,000 is not even a lot compared to total State population
NY lost so many folks that it lost a House seat when the census was undertaken in 2020. All indications are that NY will lose (definitely) 1 or maybe 2 next time around.
Also good luck funding reparations for slavery. Looks like the state has the right priorities 😂😂
Higher living costs and lower wages. Those of us in the middle working class were squeezed out and forced to find homes they could actually afford. This wealth migration is out of hand. Soon the rich will put up walls to keep the working class from accessing the expensive cities they were squeezed out from.
Awesome maybe rents will finally come down….
Chief
200k is a drop in the bucket with how much housing we really need.
Rising Star
Sure wish rent prices reflected that