One thing I’ve noticed is that people don’t leave jobs only because of pay—they often leave because of how they feel at work. I’m curious: in your own experience, what mattered more for your long-term growth—better salary packages or a healthier work environment? I’d love to hear real stories on what made you stay or leave a company

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I stayed far too long at awful jobs because the money was good. At some point in time, though, the money stopped making up for the stress, mental, and health decline I was starting to go through. Took a break to reprioritize, and that was when I decided to go into business for myself. Not the least stressful path, but it is completely different when you are in control.

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Agreed totally....I've decided to do the same..it's less stress more rewarding and fun

100% the people you work with. I interviewed with a co-founder had a fabulous interview. She turned into a non-communicative, intimidating type that did inefficient things (we literally had 130 meetings with a large client that was so uninformative and a waste of time). We parted ways quickly but I could not believe how quickly I went from admiring her to literally despising her - a few short months. I felt terrible and like I was walking on eggshells. It’s so important to have team and great leaders. It could be a widget company and I would perform best when leaders are strong and communicative.

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Thank you for being so open about your experience—it really highlights how leadership can make or break a workplace. What you described shows just how quickly admiration can turn into disengagement when communication and trust aren’t there. I completely agree that strong, communicative leaders matter more than the product itself—because without them, even the best opportunities lose their meaning.

I don't doubt that basic premise, I'm sure a lot of people do move on because a job has just become untenable. I've never been in that situation, though I've been in positions where things could have been better. I think what would keep me from leaving over a situation like that is simply that I wouldn't know for certain what I was heading into. The thing about salary is that the number is tangible, whereas knowing what the atmosphere is in a job is a mystery until you've lived it.

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That’s a very valid point—you’re right, salary is tangible while workplace culture can feel like a gamble until you’re actually inside it. I think that’s why so many people now look at employee reviews, company reputation, and even reach out to insiders before making a move. It doesn’t remove all the uncertainty, but it does give a clearer picture before taking that leap.

I think *all things being equal* people leave jobs because they don’t feel valued. But they also don’t stick around if they find out they’re getting substantially less than what they could get elsewhere. Less pay is also insulting.

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That’s such a fair point. Feeling valued and being fairly compensated really go hand in hand. Even if the culture is great, discovering you’re underpaid can undermine that sense of value—and on the flip side, good pay can’t make up for feeling unappreciated. The real challenge for companies is to align both, so employees feel respected in every sense

As long as I'm making enough to have the standard of living I want, work environment is everything.

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I feel many positive effects of people leave jobs because how they get treated unfair

Absolutely—being treated unfairly can overshadow almost everything else in a job. Even good pay or perks can’t make up for a lack of fairness and respect. Fair treatment is really the foundation of trust between employees and an organization.

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Was looking forward to a change..not so much career but I hadn't been to work in over two years. The challenge was am I hireable at this age .yes .got the job.. eager to work was told not to and had a shadow train me all day ..no brainer job but was restricted to do it in my own....realized why the turnover was so high ..boss can't remember days names or anything...trainer was OCD and germafobe..got represented like a school kid in front of the whole world...so much for eticate....I worked my shift and never went back...

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