Regardless of your own political views of what rights people should have, do you believe that people have rights aside from what the majority of people in that society expressly or implicitly are willing to grant?

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Great question!

Might doesn’t make right, but might is the only way to obtain or retain rights. Some humans refuse to respect the intrinsic rights of others (I do believe they are self-evident to everyone but psychopaths and predators).

The pretty words in the declaration have never really been true, they remain aspirational.

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Read a blog post once from a ex seal about how the promises in the declaration are written in ink but they are protected in blood. Couldn’t agree more. Nice ideas and what’s right or wrong means little without force backing it up.

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No, you can’t be sure of a right you aren’t given (or take politically), and even rights you have aren’t completely guaranteed and are subject to momentary fluctuations in understanding, enforcement, discretion (think unlawful search and seizure, imperfect jury trials, crime, etc.). And a minority isn’t always a smaller number, sometimes a weaker or more dispersed group.

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Like divinely uninalienable? No.

I do believe that every human deserves dignity and this should be reflected in all policies. Anything less is immoral.

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The longer I’m on this earth, the more I believe that, as a practical matter, there are no mystical rights written in the sky. Everything is either granted by a majority or accepted by the majority, and all rights ultimately are accepted because they are backed by force of some type. Does anyone believe that true minority (in the political sense) rights exist if the majority refuses to accept them?

Rights are no longer reliable in the US and depend on whimsical majority rule. I expect to see states red and blue to start nullifying federal decisions or authority. We already see this on issues like abortion, guns, and Covid. Rights are completely a matter of enforcement.

I wasn’t there and never lived in the south but I recall seeing videos in high school of military type personnel forcing racial integration in Alabama during the 60s or 70s. I don’t see this happening today. There just isn’t the will to enforce rights in a way like this anymore. I expect to see enough interstate migration so that the previous national idea of individual rights will be nullified at the state or local level. The former system was about individual rights. The current system is about rights based on factions or intersectional collectives. This creates a divisive political environment that prevents the cooperation needed to enforce the type of rights I believe you are talking about.

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Other than how much I agree with Boebert about how God gives Americans the right to own high caliber, high capacity, high accuracy weaponry?

No. Practically, no.

I think basic human rights should exist even if the majority of people in a society wants to remove them in certain situations. I believe being human grants these rights with some exceptions

I agree but I would argue humans still have those rights intrinsically, they are just being violated if a society ignores them

I think the majority should put the lawyers out to sea. 50%+1 is awesome!

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