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About to head to the HC for a role in ProdOps and Strategy in Mountain View. 4 YoE at MBB, no competing offers. Recruiter gave me a form that asks expected comp.
Levels.fyi has only PM salaries. I haven’t been told the level but expect it to be L4.
What total comp would you expect for this role? Any advice would be super helpful, as I’m a bit lost.
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If you want to go to Google and you don't mind where you are, stay and get promoted there, then go to Google later at a higher level.
While this is good advice, Google is only getting choosier by the day. Bird in hand…
I would 100% NOT do it. Simple:
- you already at a bit tech - brand good enough
- you see upward mobility which indicates you are building a strong network at your current company or already have one. To survive tech in this environment that’s a huge plus. Going to a new company at this timing bad choice
- S&O particularly at Google is an over hyped role. Let’s be honest. You are not the product manager building Gemini. You are basically doing some process improvement work or building some fancy slides for PMs or sales.
- bonus point: Google is notorious for slow progression. If you care up going up not the right place.
For someone who is trying to break into tech Google S&O is awesome. For you, the opportunity cost and risk don’t justify.
OP this is perhaps the mostly a thread with the most sane advice. From personal experience your network matters and for growth beyond L5/6, you need a strong group of supporters and a role that gives you growth. Its not just a function of you hitting it out of the park - atleast not at a company as large as Google. 5 to 6 would take your avg 3 years and your total comp would probably be 400-450k. IMHO the 20% pay bump does not offset the risk of moving to a new company and starting from scratch.
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What’s your current large tech company?
$400-500K is L6/L7 comp at Google and S&O folks there are having a REALLY hard time getting promoted to L6 in less than 3 years.
I would do it, 20% + Google brand are worth it.
Even if trajectory at G will be slower?
Negotiate the offer. You can probably get much more equity since Google lowballs the first offer, and that could change the math.
Without more than 20% bump, this looks like a wash. The pay may not offset less impact and future slower promo. What is special about Google's offer beyond 20% more comp and a little better brand name vs your Tier 2?
How much do you care about impact vs comp? What about other factors like location, days in office, wlb?
This is already after negotiation 😬 i tried for L6 but too little YoE.
Yeah my main concern is at my current role, I think I have a viable path to L6 probably at like 9 YoE, and potentially pivot to a revenue driving role after, while I heard Google promo/trajectory these days is very slow