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Violence begets violence, and the populace voting for restoring law and order at the expense of liberty. If you want to live in a police state, under martial law, instead of working through the system, protesting, winning hearts and minds, and voting with your pocketbook, please do it somewhere else. Consider that this is all part of the plan by those in office. Divide and conquer is a strategy,and it's part of theirs. Don't allow yourself to be a pawn by playing into the narrative that the opposition are hooligans.
To paraphrase a world reknown document:
"The history of the president is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States."
Can't really blame CA secessionists. In 13 days, we've seen division grow. Families separated. Allies contemplate their continued alliance to us.
There is no careful consideration of an approach. A brash series of strokes of a pen with no thought of the impact or repercussions.
Sad.
Because "decrying a racist" has nothing to do with rioting and being an asshole. You can hate trump and still be a grownup. The minute you get violent, you're the problem.
Decrying a racist is not a liberal value.
It's an American value.
As a conservative, I don't agree with a word the far right maniacs say but it's their right to say it. Violence is never the answer, grow up p1
Holy shit read the article. Violence works... if you're a conservative. Violence from the left turns people to vote for the Republican Party.
So keep promoting violence. If you want the repubs to win again in 2018.
Keep being violent and watch the republicans sweep again in 2018. That's all I'm sayin.
From the linked article: "It is surely the case that some positive social reforms have emerged in response to rioting. Lopez highlights the Kerner Commission and diversity efforts in the Los Angeles Police Department. But the question is not whether rioting ever yields a productive response, but whether it does so in general. Omar Wasow, an assistant professor at the department of politics at Princeton, has published a timely new paper studying this very question. And his answer is clear: Riots on the whole provoke a hostile right-wing response. They generate attention, all right, but the wrong kind."
Encouraging violence to promote your ideology is fascist. That's what drives dictatorships and military coups. SC1, if you subscribe to the belief that that's how things should be done in this country, then you're part of the problem.
The country has fortunately changed since slavery. Wartime measures is not a comparable scenario to rioting against domestic politics. And Jim Crow was defeated in large part due to nonviolent protests. Yes, 13th was a good doc, cool story bro. That doesn't prove that violence works though.
This is the breed of liberals we have to deal with now a days....
@K1 How does that nice truism have anything to do with what @P1 said?
SC1, you're wrong. Maybe read some history about the civil rights movement in this country. Violence is not the answer, even against these white nationalist scum.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/05/new-study-shows-riots-make-america-conservative.html
Violence works, says the republican. Keep it up....
You said violence works. It clearly doesn't accomplish long-term political goals. Come up with a better opinion.
It's shocking how many of us in consulting can't grasp nuance. If you disagree that violence hasn't been critical in creating this country you're woefully stupid. It's a fact guys sorry. I never said violence was right. I'm saying it's our native language.
"Right or wrong, historically in this country violence has been the answer." Her, I can't imagine why anyone would think you said violence was the answer to getting shit done...
Wouldn't civil rights leaders being murdered by opposition support the notion that violence is counterproductive to your cause? I mean some of the most powerful images of the civil rights movement were peaceful protesters being attacked for standing up for their beliefs peacefully
@D1 no it wouldn't because when MLK Jr. Started making a move to mobilize all poor people across racial groups, he was murdered. A lot of the things that Bernie Sanders is fighting for now (and more), MLK Jr. was trying to get 50+ years ago. Violence stopped his cause. We don't talk about it that way because we've largely white washed his story.
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=HXTGibiKL0k