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You have freedom of speech however, there are repercussions for your actions regardless of where you work. Basic cyber security 101 is don’t post anything in SM you aren’t proud of. People are showing their true character and if said teacher/employee is spewing hate toward our country etc., I certainly don’t want them teaching my child, they don’t represent the kind of behaviors we want emulated from our youth. That goes for any business, health care etc.
Absolutely they should. How can anyone celebrate and be happy about a man almost getting his head blown off just because his beliefs are different than yours. If you’re ok with this then something is very very wrong with you and you not be anywhere near a classroom much less teaching kids anything.
PHS1- uhhhh- republicans want everyone to mourn. They pretty much mandated it and if anyone disagreed with Kirk, they were banned. Hence why there are so many court cases. 🤦🏻♀️
Teachers are supposed to be examples of decorum, logical thought, quality behavior, and dignified speach. Teachers are expected to lead and guide children into becoming high quality adults themselves. A college degree is not enough. Teachers are expected to embody the qualities that are "above and beyond".
What teachers post on their social media gives insight into the type of individuals they are. School boards, admin, and parents are allowed to decide what types of people they want training and helping to form their students/children.
Aren’t elected government representatives supposed to be held to a higher standard as well?
Pro
I think we’re missing, or maybe ignoring, the heart of the issue. The “right to privacy,” if such a right exists, is forfeited the moment you make a private act or comment public. It’s why we all made fun of the prince and the actress when they said, “We want our privacy! Buy our new book!” We’ve known for decades now that nothing you post online is private. If there’s something you don’t want the world to know, don’t put it on the internet.
As I said earlier, I’ve changed my opinion on this, especially having my own kids go through public school. I have a vested interest in the kind of person who gets to fill their brains every day. What they say publicly matters. Consider the following questions.
1. Are there any opinions that you think would disqualify someone from being entrusted with children? Bear in mind, I already know the answer is “yes,” because several have been itemized on this forum.
2. Is it any different for a teacher to say something objectively terrible (i.e. condoning unprovoked violence) on social media than to say it on a street corner or in a shopping mall?
3. At what point does behavior outside of work become a liability for the employer?
Before we board the fascism train, stop and think what a parent of a young child would think if they knew the person they're entrusting their young impressionable children to is an advocate for murder. Now you're that teacher's employer. You think he or she represents the values of the district? I wouldn't. Sure doesn't seem to be the type you'd want responsible for “social emotional” learning. So, maybe let's drop the libertarian absolutism when it comes to freedom of speech and understand that teachers should demonstrate some moral compass in order to be considered qualified to guide children.
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That’s a great question bc technically we do work for the government. I read about a lawyer in Iowa who argued that a firing could violate first amendment protections for freedom of speech after a teacher (in Iowa) was put on leave for saying something about Kirk. The lawyer claimed that bc the school district is the government, it can’t punish employees for stating a neg opinion on a SM site on their own time if it’s not directly related to their job. Now, if the teacher mocked a student, parent, or other staff members that would be different.
Peter Riley , lawyer implied that the school district has to show ‘good cause’ for the firing. If their only reason for terminating the teacher is: ‘We didn’t like what you said’…..they will have an uphill battle that will most likely end unsuccessfully for the district
I mean if teachers/educators really are legally protected, and they are fired, they should fight it in the courts.
Just get a fake account and post whatever you want. The students figured this out a long time ago.
Pro
Are you litigating the past? January 6 too or canceling comedians bc they made fun of your guy? Or do you want to litigate the Epstein files? I think I read that they now have the votes for the ‘Discharge Bill - Epstein Transparency Act’. Wasn’t the Epstein files a bid deal for y’all? Now what happened? Why are republicans protecting pedophiles? Or, we can litigate how Kash Patel told the Senate oversight committee that Epstein trafficked girls to himself. There was none else. WTF? No? What about your guy -47 steps away from getting us into a war w Venezuela. I might have been right about that prediction, or shall we litigate the fact that your guy 47 had like 400 S Korean businesses men, who were getting a manufacturing plant up and running and training Americans in Georgia detained in handcuffs . They were treated like criminals. Now S Korea is like, yeah we’re good- we didn’t like how you treated the very ppl who 47 wanted here to build up manufacturing base in Georgia . We can litigate that. Or should we litigate how many hospitals have had to close due to Medicaid cuts?
But, what is going on with the Epstein files? I had no idea how riled up y’all were prior to the election about opening the Epstein files. I mean this is what Kirk, Vance, Patel, Bondi whomever else? talked about day in and day out. Now you don’t give a rats as about it? You no longer care about the victims? Please explain this one to me bc it’s currently going on in our country right now. All the republicans but what 5? voted NOT to release the files.
Who are they protecting and why are they protecting these pedophiles?
MHS 1
Whose y’all? I vote to release all pertinent info on the Epstein files but I’m an independent who doesn’t get to vote.
I don’t have a guy, pal. I voted for the only person who wasn’t named Clinton, Biden or Kamala. Democrats ran the only people who couldn’t win.
If your worried about y’all’s “comedians”
Find someone who’s fun they maybe people will watch. They only time I hear them is when a clip is played on the news but I know thought comedians where suppose to be funny.
Then y ‘all have the problem of rich white lefties
Telling minorities they do have out of control crime in their cities. Then tell them police and jails are the problem.
No wonder Democrats lost ground with every voter group except white lefties. Substantial ground with Hispanic and black voters.
I do find it frustrating that teachers are being held to such high standards. I would get it if they were sharing their political views to their students in the classroom. However, we have as much right to our privacy outside of the school as anny other employee does in any other industry.
Again, taking comments out of context.
Give me the **exact discussions** where Kirk expressed white supremacy, or fascism.
Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical, open border neoliberal quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews. And now it’s coming for Jews.”
—> Pointing out that those being villainized by the left actually funded the left.
Replacement Theory, it’s a Great Replacement Reality. Just this year, 3.6 million foreigners will invade America. 10–15 million will enter by the end of Joe Biden’s term. Each will probably have 3–5 kids on average while native born Americans have 1.5 per couple. You are being replaced, by design.”
—> He didn’t say WHITE. He said NATIVE BORN AMERICANS.
His podcast with the Christian Grifter, Posobiec, was about eternal principles, theology, religion, and Enlightenment. Not my field of expertise, or, quite frankly, interest, as an atheist.
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Sharing an opinion is one thing. Laughing at murder, brutal murder, is sick and you have no place around children.
Funny how the left has been doxxing and trying to get people fired for years now, but when the tables are turned (so to speak ... We actually have a valid reason to report people to employers) now they cry and whine.
If you think blood spurting from someone's neck is funny, whether on the left, right, or center of the political isle, you are a sick deranged lunatic that needs to be in an asylum.