Would you rather work for an easy and chill manager that is low stress or a manager that is tough but you learn a lot?

I enjoy working for the former but i feel like I’ll be treated as an associate forever. The latter is better for my career growth, but it’s just too difficult at times and makes me want to quit. Advice on this?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

I have had the tough manager and it was a toll on my mental health because he had toxic traits. I am self motivated. I can work with a chill manager. That is my preference

like

I experienced this as well, and the senior became the manager I mentioned in my prior comment. I had an open and honest conversation with the Senior - now manager - I mentioned that I was open to learn their leadership style and shared my concerns in a kind and direct way; however, after the feedback and feedback from other leaders and team members, their leadership style did not change. It is best for the company to have this manager since this manager is an amazing producer. Unfortunately, I do not agree on giving each single minute of my life to a project, and I left. Sometimes is best to protect your peace.

likesmart

I have four degrees, I can learn on my own. But working for a boss that nothing is ever good enough would drive me insane.

like

I've had both and in most instances I've actually experienced the chill manager is willing to hand the reins to me. Manager is out on PTO? Tells the partner I'll be handling things and running meetings in his or her absence. I think part of that was also the trust I built with my managers by respecting their position while also letting them know I know my stuff and the proof is in the pudding

like

I'd say work with both assuming the tough manager doesn't also have toxic behavior and the easy/chill manager is willing to give you growth opportunities.

like

What do u consider toxic behavior

Depends on your definition of “tough”, but I’d prefer the latter. I’ve had the latter and the toughness was only in regards to their expectations on communication, consistency and your own willingness to be thorough and self-sufficient…that being said they were all fair expectations. I had the most growth opportunities given to me under that manager and I learned the most I ever have. It also molds you in to thinking the same way as well, so anything after that is usually easier to deal with.

like

How about door #3 - a low stress manager from whom you learn a lot.

like

This is a unicorn in public accounting

like

I’ve experienced a manager that was super chill and I agree, you can get into too much of a comfort zone and there is no growth. I think that if you earn the respect of the tougher manager then they can be more forgiving and that makes the relationship better. You could also make the plan to try and learn as much as you can and take that to your next role.

like

Easily Chill Manager. I don’t find ive really suffered from a learning perspective. The late night phone calls and weekend messages and musings, and fire drills etc from a tough but “good” manager were dreadful.

like

Calling you at night, musing and conducting fire drills isn't a tough manager that's just an ahole without boundaries who somehow got promoted.

Being a tough manager is one that has high standards for your work quality, ability to learn, and doesn't let you slide on laziness, cutting corners or being late.

like

Always the nice one

Related Posts

Tired of your job and want to come to KPMG Cyber Services? Drop me a burner here.

likefunny

Has anyone had an interview where the interviewer only asks 1-2 questions (with one of them being “tell me about yourself?”). The first round was the same and I made it through, so don’t think (cont.)

like

What are the chances of Amazon (or FAANG in general) allowing you to apply/interview again for a position that you did not get in the past?

like

Will Siemens Technology (STSPL) block list a candidate if the candidate accepts and later rejects the offer. Siemens Technology

like

People moving from KGS to KPMG canada.. how do you do that? Joined kgs few months back in consulting.. Is this a permanent Transfer or just an onshore assignment for sometime?

like

If I’m 6 years in, and the stars haven’t aligned for any (real) awards yet, am I screwed? I’m making fun work but am at a shop that doesn’t prioritize awards, how do I get into one of the greats?

like

Has anyone had a manager they just don’t vibe with/relate to? I’ve been trying to connect but I haven’t gotten them on my side yet. How did you manage to crack the ice?

like

@Ifisys Software and Service Pvt. Ltd.

Post Photo
like

We had evaluations and normally we have annual raises. I think my salary is under market value at $68k (plus OT) in Los Angeles (5 years of experience). I was told I am one of the top employees in the firm. When I asked about a raise, I was told “when you think about it at your level 5k to 10k doesn’t really matter it’s the long term goal that matters”. What would be your response to that, to a partner who is making 500-600k a year?

like

Hey! I’m wondering how would it be to be a dentist in Italy. If anyone knows… I’m considering studying that there 🙏🏻☘️

like

What’s the best tumi briefcase? Keen to have something compact as possible (will end up filling with crap if I go for the bigger ones) but also want something can carry or attach a water bottle to

like

Got an offer from OW entry level London.

Does it make sense to join if I don't really have much passion for FS?

Other offers are EY-P, Marakon, LEK, OC&C

Any thoughts??

like

Message me if you need a referral to PwC cybersecurity, financial crimes, or regulations. Please no noobs. Only experienced professionals with at least 1 YOE

likefunny

I cleared technical interviews in Legato Health Technologies and was asked to send the documents to proceed with HR discussion. Its been a week and i didn't get any call from them. Any suggestions. I have 13LPA and asked 20LPA with YOE 6

like

Again posting since my last post did not got attention. Wanted to ask whether it's good to switch to big 4 India advisory role from a mid tier organization dealing in tech and ops. Additionally, they offered just very low percentage on current CTC saying that I am coming to a big brand.
Plus my current financial situation is stressful and I accepted the offer on certain conditions but now hr or the firm but saying we can't committ you. Any suggestions.

like

How is the job market right now? Been trying to leave for an IA manager role, but haven’t had any luck. Not sure if it’s me or the market

like

I think am not working for the company ... am working for my boss's resume 😂

likefunny

I am a graduating student who just got offered 65k for a solution analyst role at Deloitte USDC (Data Engineering Focus). From reading previous posts it seems to be a lot of negative thoughts surrounding the USDC, but straight out of college is this a good opportunity?

I'm looking to gain as much experience as possible out of college in an IT role and wondering what exit opportunities may be in place a year or two down the road if there is little/slow progression.

Any Advice?

likehelpful

How is work life balance at Citi Risk Team?

like

Additional Posts in Accounting

Is it possible to jump firms before you reach senior?

like

I got laid off by Deloitte back in June, and just got the questionnaire asking if I want to keep my pension or do lump sum ($14k). Any advice?

like

I hope my manager rotten in hell!!!!😡😡😡

like

About to put in my 2 weeks next Monday, what should I be aware of?

like

Why did we choose PA instead of a rotational program again?

like

Is offer match a good idea?

like

I’ve been in Risk for a year now and would like to transfers to BAP (business advisory) how would you recommend going about this ? What steps can I take to ensure I get transferred? Cont

like

Has anyone worked for an accounting advisory (technical accounting) practice and FDD? Which did you like better and why?

I'm in an AAS practice but wonder if I'd like FDD more.

like

To those in leadership, no PBB is what it is, but to blame it on COVID-19 is just a slap in the face...2-3 weeks of working from home doesn’t kill the fiscal year when we’re 9 months in....

likesmart

How do you know if you’re considered a value employee?

likefunny

Curious what others think about this: a friend of mine has a couple of months of leave this fall to study for the CPA exam (they’ll be paid a reduced salary during their leave), but they mentioned they have no intention of studying for the exam, and instead plan to use that time to look for another job. This rubs me the wrong way, but wanted to hear what others think…

like

We had evaluations and normally we have annual raises. I think my salary is under market value at $68k (plus OT) in Los Angeles (5 years of experience). I was told I am one of the top employees in the firm. When I asked about a raise, I was told “when you think about it at your level 5k to 10k doesn’t really matter it’s the long term goal that matters”. What would be your response to that, to a partner who is making 500-600k a year?

like

EY is hiring in assurance in the west region! Please message me if you’re interesting and I can possibly send along your info as a referral!

likefunnyhelpful

Does insurance cover vision and dental?

like

PwC Townhall - too long didn't watch, what's the cliff notes ?

like

As a client now how I feel walking out at 6 pm during “busy times” and seeing my auditors hacking it away. Stay strong!

Post Photo
likefunnysmart

I keep seeing people say this is the new normal. But it really isn't, this is a temporary normal.

likesmart

When it's almost 5pm and you are finally able to start on the task you were supposed to spend most of the day on.

like

In person corporate financial analyst interview questions? Suggestions on what to bring?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal