Ageism sucks. And I see older folks constantly subjected to it. But let's be clear, ageism isn't *just* towards older people. A common occurance is older people trying to pull rank on younger developers, even when the younger devs are clearly more qualified. It seems the more meaningful distinction is not age or years of experience - but whether or not you care about your work, and have continued to refine your taste and explore new ideas. Maybe we need a new metric: "Years of new experience".

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This is exactly what confuses me. In software it is not age . If you stopped continuously learning no matter your age you are obsolete. How can you generalize that older people would do that vs younger people. If you have that fire no matter your age you would do that unless health issues. Now certain tasks like coding if takes more than10 hours a day one could argue the energy but isn't wheee Ai is supposed to help to remove that grunt work and apply creativity

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What I know is I started as manual software QA, shifted to automation, became a software developer (and was considered a senior dev), moved to SRE / platform engineer. But because I have less experience there than in those previous positions, I'm getting paid less.

I'm broadening my experience and knowledge, just not getting rewarded for it. Granted, the best way to get rewarded is to job hop. But I'm now fighting with 10s of thousands of other computer engineers that have been laid off in the past few years.

That’s interesting, I hadn’t thought of the inverse of ageism but it’s totally true

That’s sad :( we don’t have the privilege to stop learning in this role though

Recently, an older dev tried boasting about his “20+ years of experience developing in various languages” to say modern standards are ugly, basically. Other things this older dev does: terrible commit messages, cowboy local dev environment, refusal to learn the stack he’s been working in for the past 3 years, not testing locally before deploying to dev, unable to keep up with his own tooling like vscode or copilot. Yet, he probably wonders why he’s being managed out.

I tried to help him but he’s a politics guy. Publicly domineering but casually in my DMs asking how things work. Good riddance.

While we as tech people do mental arm wrestling on who is the smartest or best, the sales bros are high fiving about their sweet commissions and ordering another round of drinks.

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