Freelancers

At a FT CD interview the CD (a would-be peer) was super put off by my long history of freelancing and couldn’t wrap her head around how I’d be able to manage and lead teams, despite my decades...

like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon
works at

...of experience making and pitching. I explained that I have led teams intermittently. She’s been at the same agency for 15+ years. Likely we have different strengths. She seemed very suspicious about what value I could bring. I feel long-term freelancers have an innate hustle, ambition to do good work and interpersonal skills (we have to swallow way more shit or we don’t get asked back) than long time staffers don’t. Super generalizations here, but just wanted to get your thoughts.

Reaction Icon Like
like
Arrow Icon

...of experience making and pitching. I explained that I have led teams intermittently. She’s been at the same agency for 15+ years. Likely we have different strengths. She seemed very suspicious about what value I could bring. I feel long-term freelancers have an innate hustle, ambition to do good work and interpersonal skills (we have to swallow way more shit or we don’t get asked back) than long time staffers don’t. Super generalizations here, but just wanted to get your thoughts.

Reaction Icon Like
like
Arrow Icon

In addition to all of the positive characteristics common in long-term freelancers as you mentioned above, she has obviously been working in a bubble for a very long time and is out-of-touch with how the industry has changed. Especially since a good number of freelancers aren’t freelance by choice, but b/c agencies no longer want to invest in FT.

Reaction Icon Like
like
Arrow Icon

Smart. I didn’t even think of that.

Reaction Icon Like
like
Arrow Icon

The ad industry has a major hang up about long-term freelance. There’s no rationale for their absurd freak outs if you’ve freelanced more than 5 years. As a freelancer you acquire so much versatility in your work, skills, communication skills, project management, time management, adaptability, range of brand experience, problem solving, and discipline! Sad, that they can’t see the benefits of hiring a freelancer for temp or especially perm position. Dumbasses.

Reaction Icon Like
like
Arrow Icon

Preach.

Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

I managed a large teams for two years as a freelancer. Non AOR clients sometimes call for that. But it’s hard for folks who haven’t seen it to get it.

Reaction Icon Like
helpful
Arrow Icon

Freelancers don't get lots of management opps but they do exist. I'm freelancing now and have asked to lead projects and help manage teams for exactly this reason and to grow as a mentor. If you think you have the skillset but freelance hasn't allowed you to lead as much, just bs and say you lead teams on x y and z. You must have had some longer terms gigs ya?

Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

I have led teams but only for a few weeks here and there. I taught workshops for college kids too. Forgot to mention that at the interview. Thanks for your reply✌🏼

Reaction Icon Like
like
Arrow Icon

Sounds like she was looking for excuses to keep the project to herself.

Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

+1 also agree

Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Related Posts

Was asked by a friend to join a board of a small/mid size S Corp (for profit enterprise). No compensation involved. What do I need to know about and think about before making a decision ?

Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Is the 1-year clawback provision on our sign-on bonus prorated if you leave before the year, or is it 100% repayment?

like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

So do you all soak your fruits and veggies in baking soda and vinegar when you first get them? That scrub brush that looks like a shoe shine is complete nonsense for pesticide. Is it for dirt?

Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

I am in a situation where I have figured out the mistakes that held me back. How do I fix my reputation? Take a step down and show humility or start fresh at a step up position? And kill it?

likesmartupliftinghelpful
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Looking for a referral at Merck and Pfizer. Can anyone help provide one please?

like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Anyone with the sinking realization that you’d be single for life? I travel for work and spend the rest with friends. Most guys don’t understand dating a consultant. So much for dating as a consultant

like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Hi! I am participating in cycle for survival this year at Equinox Bryant Park to raise money for rare cancer research. If you’re interested in donating pls DM me. I am almost at my goal of $2000! 😇

like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Whats the best way to get food delivered / purchase groceries? Should we sanitize packages?

like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Anyone ever feel lonely at work? As in, you still talk and all, but still don’t feel close to people and feel distant. Not part of any friend group and always initiating but never being reached out to

likehelpful
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

I just impulse bought a 2007 Chevy Tahoe for $2000. The owner was moving and had to get rid of it by this weekend. I have no idea what I am going to do with it, but it runs great!

Post Photo
like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

When you elect a reality TV star as President from a party that fundamentally doesn’t believe in a functioning government, don’t be surprised when they can’t handle a crisis.

likesmartfunny
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Wealthfront’s “HYSA” has dropped to .26% while others like Capital One and Marcus seem to still be 1.5% or higher. What a joke. Anyone move their money yet?

like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

I’m my clients favorite, as shown by this after hours RFI

Post Photo
likeupliftingfunny
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Looking for book recos for creative people moving into managing people as CDs and not knowing WTF they're doing.

likeupliftinghelpful
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

What are the best shoes to commute to work in? My commute is through airports or on NYC subway.

Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Anyone notice a decrease in responsiveness of recruiters? Had to follow up multiple times before interviews were scheduled.

likefunny
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

any (creatives) actually like the agency they’re working at?

likefunny
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

What is the age that you found the one you want to spend the rest of your life with?

like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Anyone knows if McK in general and in Dallas in specific is hiring?

like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Liking this Thappad movie...

like
Reaction Icon Like
Arrow Icon

Download the Fishbowl app

That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what’s it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Sign in here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview