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Hey! Any Google folks know if it’s possible to negotiate fully remote if a contract role is hybrid? Personally, I don’t want to relocate and go to the office on a contract role given the current economy. Plus, I’m assuming contractors are the first to go in layoffs. I just think it’s a fair trade off if I’d be allowed to work fully remote. I’m also trying to have flexibility to manage my Airbnb business in a different country. Same time zone as the home office if I’d travel weeks at a time.
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Im not searching for a new job but an acquaintance reached out about a similar role at a similar energy company.Turns out 2 ppl threw my name in the hat. I looked into it and the position was posted 2 weeks ago.Their director wants to meet.I bet pay is one of the first things to be discussed so that no one’s time is wasted.Am I crazy for not wanting to entertain it for less than 20-25% base pay increase?Is it selfish to ask for more? I’m sure most salary conversations end in negotiation anyways?
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Depends. What is your financial plan? If you know youre worth more do you have savings to sustain you if you don't accept? Always better to be working and looking for a better position/pay/role then to be unemployed asking for more than offered. Not to say you're not worth it but with the economy in it's current state, can you afford to be out of work?
Good luck! You can always keep looking after securing the role. If they aren't willing or able, there isn't much restricting you from continuing to look for fair market value. Definitely keep the role until you're ready to sign and transition to the new company.
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Feels like you are more upset over the principle of your request being turned down as opposed to the dollar amount.
That is probably true. I am the most upset over being denied a reasonable request to close the gap between the initial offer and what would be equitable given the comparators/my experience. I fear that the handling of my request/negotiations is a bad omen for how I will be treated as an employee. The dollar amount I requested and the dollar amount I was offered are both upsettingly low so they feel indistinguishable in that sense. So probably should find something better paid rather than take this but it's the quickest exit path in front of me and that is what matters most now. But realistically unless I end up loving it, I will look to pivot in short order for something better paid regardless of the starting salary. Thanks for your thoughts!
I can understand how frustrating that must feel. I think it comes down to whether the role offers other value like career growth, work-life balance, or long-term stability. Sometimes the short-term salary tradeoff is worth it but only if it aligns with your bigger goals. What matters most to you right now?
I think the role will offer more stability (not necessarily long-term) than the volatility of federal employment right now, and the possibility of career growth whereas I have none where I am currently....I doubt the work-life balance will be much different, in some ways more hectic at first since it always is when you start somewhere new (I have been in same role for 8 years). I had been thinking the short-term salary tradeoff was worth it to get out of my current job without engaging in the uncertainty of the job market further, but that is alignment with the very immediate short term goal of changing positions with the hope that doing so will give me the space to figure out new and bigger goals now that my federal career path has ended for foreseeable future. Thanks for your thoughts on this. It is sad but true that what matters most right now is a certain exit path ASAP. :(
The market is soft currently. I know of 5 Sr. professionals that are just recently out of work. Just got the heads up that a fortune 100 company was laying off an entire division.
With the market in mind, I work but never stop looking. Things are going to get worse before they get better.
That is so tough but I will say from personal experience, the federal govenrment usually says no. They are pretty unwilling to negotiate once they have made an offer so I wouldn't take that too personally. I guess it depends on if you have the ability to walk away or not.
I work in state government. They just don’t pay well in general. I worked in city government for many years prior and they paid more overall with a higher percentage of yearly pay increases. I’d take the state gov role and look for a city gov position if you want to stay in the public sector. Just my experience.