Ever hear of someone getting demoted after winning a pitch? (true story)

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Better than terminated but that would keep me up all night too. No respect these days.

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Could the scope of the project/budget been reevaluated for the launch and the solution was to reshuffle? It would suck if they brought someone else in though, that would dissipate any trust.

Sorry for the long note and I might have read to much into it. But here is my take:

Yeah, it was because they are making asshole decisions or you are truly horrible at your job, offer little of value and that is why they are trying to get rid of you.

It’s almost always exclusively the former. But it can feel like the latter. So let those shitheads who are trying to cripple your confidence focus on politics while you do the work. And be good at it.

Keep your head up. Your confidence is tied to your performance. You will leave there and do better things. In 2 months or 2 years. So focus on your well being and growth.

In the short-term: manage it. It smells like there is fuckery afoot.

Ask what why. Ask what you did well during the pitch and in general. what you can improve, where your growth lies and if this has anything to do with CoViD. Not necessarily by email, but in chats. Record them. Or diary them up in a google doc; so you have the tracking dates.

It’s worth setting aside 20 minutes a day to do this. Set those, don’t do it continuously: because focus on work when you can. Write down what you think went well, what you are working and obvious slights you are getting. It is definitely therapy, and maybe it’s ammunition for later. Maybe it is not.

But don’t forget you are most likely on the wrong end of bad. Prove them wrong by being successful despite the odds. Winning the pitch and your contribution is just the latest example of you being good at what you do.

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Thanks for this. I’ve been asking why, and what this means with my roles and responsibilities, things like that. No real answers there and not really surprised either, seemed very on the whim of management talking and making this decision. I’ve been keeping a google doc with emails and screenshots and will continue it with any new info and/or off hand comments towards me in general. Time to look somewhere else 👋🏼

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I seen people get laid off after winning pitches.

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Leave it as ACD and look elsewhere as an ACD and tout your part in winning the pitch.

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I’ve seen, I mean.

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Any idea why?

I’ve never actually seen someone go from one title to a lower one. Does this happen?

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Why were you demoted? Did you ask?

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Pitch or no, I didn’t realize demotions were a real thing that ever really happened.

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This is a lower title but keep all your responsibilities situation.

Yes.... happens. I worked at a place where after winning a small account I was laid off as more account people where hired.

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What was the reason given? Also did you go from CD to ACD or ACD to Sr Creative? It has to be a small agency. A holding company would’ve just let you go.

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Getting a pay cut as well. ECD and HR called me up without warning and gave me the news, so yeah nobody I work with was involved.

(Ugh sorry for the blatant spelling errors, that’s why 5AM mornings do to you)

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I’ve seen people promoted after losing pitches lol. But not the other way around. Did they give any reasoning?

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🙋🏻‍♂️ I got “laid off” after winning a pitch.

@CD3 Exactly what happened to me. Won the pitch, and then they brought in a new ECD. The CCO who hired me left shortly after we won the pitch. Probably about 2 months after) I still don’t know if he quit or he got fired. There had always been a lot of friction between him and the CEO. I had a good relationship with the outgoing CCO, but when he left, the new ECD became CCO. He hadn’t even been there during the pitch, but now he was leading the account (and the agency). I launched the first campaign for the account with great success and about 6 months in, I was let go supposedly because we lost a different (smaller) account that I was leading (though we lost it just because the client wanted to consolidate that part of the account with their AOR. Wasn’t really our fault).

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