Former litigators who went in house as litigation counsel for a large company, would you mind sharing your experience? What were the positives and negatives of the change?

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You get much more insight into the settlement process, and how the settlement amount is determined by the company. You do much more reviewing and polishing of briefing, but don’t see it till it is too late to correct major issues (without paying for the major rework). You get involved in the high level strategy, but you also aren’t allowed to know some of the Confidential details to base your decisions on. So it is frustrating when your outside counsel says, “we recommend XXX, but can’t tell you why, so trust us explicitly and stop trying to give us directions on how to work the case.” (OK, a bit of an exaggeration, but it does kind of feel like Outside Counsel is a petulant teenager who thinks their parents are stupid.)

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Patent cases, all the time, due to the protective orders. Most Confidential stuff is marked Outside Attorneys’ Eyes Only.

Positives: better in almost every way imaginable; amazing team and people. Negatives: no technology budget for at home equipment; 5 day RTO.

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