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You are having the same problem that I had when I started looking at google pay. Google total comp consists of three components - base pay, bonus and equity.

Engagement Managers (which are not what you think) have a base pay that starts in the 170-180 range. Add on equity ans bonus and you are making way more than an accenture mgr.

My base pay over the last few years has ranged from 52-64% of my total comp.

Removing our direct from college hires. I would say our average starting Total Comp is closer to 160-180k for entry level (level 4 pso in cloud). Btw....that is for an average of 32-40 hours per week.

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I realize those job duties now based on your comments (thx again), but they are not bad enough to dissuade me because I have done worse things for less money at companies less desirable than Google. 😋

By pointing me toward S&O, I guess you're saying that PSO EM is not feasible. Learning that I am not techy enough and that the bar for techy enough is likely too high to be worth the opportunity costs IS enough to dissuade me.

I appreciate the candor of advising me to look elsewhere! It saved me, potential referrers and Google recruiters some time. But I hope this isn't a false negative; there was a thread about a client engineering or similar role that sounded very technical on paper, but was less technical in reality, so from my outside perspective, maybe the same is true for the EM role.

Now I might have to start a new thread about S&O roles, levels and compensation!

Base salary is just one component of google total compensation. G1 is correct above. When you factor in stock and bonus, it’s easily closer to $225k for a low COL

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How much does 225k change for a high COL like Mountain View? 30% more?

Depends on level, and that's probably the min base salary at the lowest COL location (Boulder, CO on that list). Figure the annual target bonus would be around 20-40k, then annual equity at around 40-60k with refreshers every year if you time your join date correctly and multipliers based on your perf rating, then it's not so bad. Interview performance matters alot in negotiating their initial low-ball offers.

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Are there different levels of engagement manager? How many, and which ones? Levels 4, 5 and 6?

Forgot to answer a part of your question. Google pso is similar to a deloitte / accenture (systems implementation)

A lot less overhead - everyone's tech skills are amazing - and we avoid bs work like crazy. Less hours and stress too

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Thanks for the helpful answers! I will follow up in replies.

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What does the EM role do? I m considering applying for it as the pay seems higher than my current pay but the responsibilities seem super Basic ( per G3 above limited to writing SOWs, no teams, nothing to consult). I also checked out folks who are EM on LinkedIn and they all have much lower YOE than I do.

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Also...give then Em role a shot. No downside in applying

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The EMs that I know are all fairly senior. I'd say at least mid 30s

I should add that I occasionally see them organizing rfp responses for 100-500M dollar deals.

I should not that I usually see senior managers join us as level 5 consultants or TAMs. Sometimes even level 4

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Is L5 from a senior manager or manager common? At what level do post MBA university hires join?

They’re required to put that in the posting to conform with Colorado state law. Min base salary won’t be anywhere near total comp as others mentioned.

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Not surprising given that many product companies don’t value the PS teams the same way was they do product development.

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