Having a J.D. invalidated me for a law clerk/paralegal position "with potential growth into an Attorney." This is the first time I have heard of this happening. I am curious if this has happened to anyone else and on general thoughts on this.

Note: I failed the July bar and am taking it again in February. The potential employer was not aware of failing or retaking it in February.

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That is really odd to me. I don't understand why that would invalidate you. Did they give you any reasoning as to why?

Not being admitted to the bar would be my guess. Admission status is available on the web and law firms usually check.

That was my initial thought until another conversation with them. Just wanted some other minds on it, thank you!

Sounds like maybe they’re looking for someone without a JD that will work with them while going to law school to eventually become an attorney. Since you already have your JD, you’d likely want to move to an attorney position earlier than they are planning.

This was it. Had a full conversation with them. They wanted "homegrown talent," which makes me wonder why they wasted the 2hrs on my interview and another 2hrs on my friend's (same boat as me).

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