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I wanted a suggestion from you all guys, I have given interview of PS and got a call for offer after interview and I denied the offer as I have received an offer from some other company, I denied coz I was not doing offer shopping or piling offers, he tried to convince me and when I didn't get convinced he said to blacklist me from PS. What to do?
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Eh, I don’t think you should doubt your purpose/capabilities as lawyer based off of 2 years and 3 firms. That’s not enough or even great data to conclude you should quit being a lawyer. It’s too early to throw in the towel, especially when you consider those 3 firms were bad fits (which appears to be out of your control). I think you need to find a firm or opportunity that is a good fit for you in terms of quality mentorship and encourages room for growth as a lawyer.
Okay, OP. I’ve had terrible bosses and worked for 5 firms. You are at the beginning of the career and this career is loooooooong. I’m 10 years in and I feel like I am just getting the hang of it and just hitting a stride. I think the issue you are having is the people. The people in law firms can suck which means it’s incredibly important to find places with good people - they are often worth more than max pay.
To answer: yes I can relate. I hated law for at least 7 years and then I took a sabbatical. Getting distance was amazingly helpful and helped me re-orient and heal. I’m about to join a firm I’m super pumped about primarily bc I am working with former colleagues who were awesome.
Same here.
I don’t know what is wrong with me, my colleagues say my writing is fine. I guess I am just not good at building connections, maybe not good at communicating, or maybe my EQ is not great.
I know sth is wrong, but I don’t know what I should do to improve my situation
I think the universe is being quite clear here, OP, but if you want to make sure, go for a 4th firm and see if it's rhe same scenario.
Or just go to Government/academia.
It may not be law itself, it could just be a shaky career foundation. Maybe it was a poor law school fit, or just the fact that your first firm was not well-suited. It can be a very precarious path getting back on solid ground after a rocky start. One thing leads to another and it becomes a cycle of poor fits and last resorts. And then the industry gaslights you and suggests that you are just incapable. It may have nothing to do with your ability. Don’t let others tell you what you know. Ask yourself.
It took me 15 years to find a job I loved. I don’t recommend it. Get out while you can.
SC, what was wrong with the previous firm/s? Fifteen years is a long time to just “go along to get along” so to speak. Perhaps you stayed out of necessity??
So you’ve had a little bit of bad luck with firms. Don’t give up and keep looking. You will find a decent firm to work for. There is no perfect one but you can get close to perfect. Believe me, I know. I’ve been searching for 35 yrs for the perfect firm and have yet to find one, but some are way better than others. Good luck.
The legal field attracts a lot of shitty personalities who make partner simply because they've been doing it long enough (i.e., not because of merit). That, combined with the fact that I generally enjoy my job (and it IS just a job, never forget that) has what's kept me sane. If/when I get feedback, I consider the constructive bits and let the rest roll off, because it's very likely the person giving me that feedback only barely knows more about what they're talking about than I do, if at all.
This is all to say, OP, that I'm on my third firm in about five years, and I've never let the bullshit get me down, because it's just that: bullshit. When stuff works, I ride with it, and when it doesn't, I start looking elsewhere. You're never going to totally avoid assholes in practically any profession, but as long as you actually like legal work and being a lawyer, you can make it work and enjoy it as the thing that makes you money for your actual life.
So ask yourself, OP, do you like being a lawyer? Do you enjoy that actual grunt work of being an associate and maybe occasionally talking to people to network? Because if you do, then you're in the right place and on the right path no matter what the bozos who have a couple years on you say. And if not, then maybe start looking elsewhere. But never let a couple of assholes turn you off from something you spent a lot of time and effort achieving and may very well like doing. You are a competent professional and you have what it takes to succeed, if you wish to continue succeeding in this field.
I agree with others-- sounds like you've had terrible luck with firms. Don't give up. Look for a new job and consider government or in-house!
What if I have bad luck with a government agency?
Follow your passion bc this is not it
Think about what you like to do when you are not working and follow that and start from there
The money is not going to be even close at the beginning to what you are making now but if you allow it ,it might be even more of what you are making now
You are smart - you can do this
Life is so short; think of yourself if you were your own child : would you like your child to be miserable at work or go to work happy ?
I think you know the answer to this question
The reason you are struggling is bc there is no balance in your life : there is only work and thinking about work all the time