I recently heard a powerful quote: "Loyalty has no end. Otherwise, it would not be loyalty."

How loyal are you? Are your loyalties limited to your family and friends or do your loyalties extend to your employers?

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There’s pretty much no sentiment of loyalty for myself and any employer. There is no sentimentality for employers to employees, I think everybody saw that after RTO and a lot of businesses. So no, there’s none towards my company. Definitely towards my friends definitely towards my family.

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Very true! Loyalty to family and friends should not be questioned, but the road goes both ways with employers and employees.

Loyal to employer? Nah. I get paid to do a job and I do it. I certainly don't go around bad mouthing them but if another job was better for me and my family I'd bounce without a second thought.

I think people sometimes confuse loyalty with fealty. No to both.

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That's a really good perspective!

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