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Give at least $1 or $2 if you can not afford more, even if it is a small tip, the gratitude matters and by the end of the day, dollars add up for the delivery person. The company keeps majority of the delivery charge.
Yes, because the fee is going to the company, not the person delivering the food.
Delivery workers are actually earning close to $30 an hour lol
https://www.uber.com/blog/important-changes-for-couriers-in-nyc/
Rising Star
Yes? They don’t get any of that as tip. If you can’t afford or don’t want to pay both tips and fees, then pick up your food yourself
I didn’t report anything
Yes!!!!! Of course!!
These people are often braving the elements (or at least the hell that is ny traffic) to get you your food. Why in the world would you not tip? They don’t get all (or sometimes any) of the delivery fee.
“Why in the world would you not tip?” Because it’s optional, if they don’t like the elements why sign up for that job?
I don’t tip unless the meal is covered by work - if the delivery driver is dissatisfied with their earnings, they can find another job
I wouldn’t tip regardless if it’s covered by work
The delivery platforms are the only winners in the entire transaction - the delivery drivers get zilch, the restaurant owners whose margins are tight to begin with are squeezed even further when the delivery platforms take their cut and the end customer has to make an increasing share of the fees for delivery, service etc I have seen orders where the add on fees is around 30%-40%. Absolute nuts for food that gets delivered 20-45 mins afters it's made in plastic containers.
You either go out and patronize the place you want to eat at or go pick up the order directly. In that way you get rid of the middle men and most of your dollars go to those who are making the food.
When it’s not possible to get the food yourself, I’m just not willing to pay a double premium. The tip is the premium for convenience. What is a $6 delivery fee? Seems like a premium. Tough luck for the worker bees, just don’t see how this is MY problem. I paid for my meal and paid a premium for it.
never tip — never give away money when it’s optional, and tips are optional — what the tip is for, who it goes to, if they are paid enough to have two children is completely irrelevant — it is still optional — welcome to America
Agreed.
No, because it’s not my problem that these apps are shifting responsibility for backstopping wages.
If they need that tip to make ends meet, the app fee should be that much higher.
I don’t tip my landlord because my apartment doesn’t have roaches or I have a new quiet neighbor. My rent better cover that crap. Lord knows we pay enough already.
It’s undeniable that the standard practice of tipping has evolved significantly since the introduction of these apps
As a lifelong New Yorker, I remember the traditional method: you'd call a restaurant, place your order, and upon delivery, a tip of $2-$5 was customary. Hell delivery guys loved it. They didn’t have to report that income and kept the cash all to themselves.
These days though, the current trend with these apps is different. They suggest tipping a percentage of the total food cost, which doesn't seem logical to me. Why should I pay $15 in tips just because my meal is pricey? It reflects a troubling shift in our society. We're increasingly being nudged to spend more on things that traditionally didn't cost as much. It's kind of wild when you think about it lol
Rising Star
If you’re cheap just admit it. Stop trying to justify your actions.
What difference does it make whether people admit that they are cheap or not? Either way, the delivery person is not getting the tip, makes no difference to him. It’s not practical at all.
Food delivery (and eating out, valet parking, doorman buildings, etc.) are not god-given rights. They are luxury services/goods. If you can afford to tip the lowly paid employees working in dehumanizing roles who are supplying those luxuries, then pick up your own food.
A1 I will own you on rebuttals, I just don’t need to waste my time. But you’re all saying it’s a social norm and this and that to tip folks and I’m wondering if and when there’s an evolution to tip your grocery bagging clerk, you’ll be first in line bc you’re doing some sort of civic duty. My values are different from yours clearly. Don’t forget to tip your landlord.
There is a pretty big fee associated with this food purchase and people here are saying I’m cheap etc. Do you all tip your UPS drivers when you get an Amazon purchase? No, and that shipment was free. When there’s a shipping fee of like $9 for something you bought, do you scoff at it (obviously I do). Do you tip that guy? I’m just confused why you people think I’m in the wrong here and why the restaurant/corporation isn’t? Go pay your employees more but please don’t make the customers feel like we need to pay 2x for our food “just because we were too ‘lazy’ to get it ourselves”.
For those who wanna know deets - it was an $11 pizza pie with a $6 delivery fee. Why should I tip when I’ve already paid a 55% premium? The restaurant can do better but don’t ask that I fork up another $5 just because I have the money. That ain’t the point here.
Rising Star
I think this is different than using one of the big platforms that are a total scam. But I still have no clue what the fees go to, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the restaurant was pocketing it. Although I guess you could ask if you really wanted to know what it was for. Idk 🤷🏼♀️
Rising Star
This is a matter of which fee you’re ALLOWED to skip. The app won’t let you check out without paying their fee, but they will allow you to check out without tipping. You’re not protesting the premium, you’re buying right into the system you claim is unfair by allowing the app margin to be prioritized.
Call the restaurant directly. Or use Toast. Then tip your delivery worker, if you can’t afford the app margin. It’s courtesy, manners, ethics. Don’t like it, move to a country where tipping is sheerly symbolic. You got the money to get food biked to you in the rain? Tip your delivery worker. Don’t stiff them because Seamless is a rip-off.
Rising Star
You’re supporting the apps/employers you’re complaining about. Your habits are the problem, not US cultural norms around tipping.
Who in their right mind gets food delivered?
Plenty of people
Rising Star
I mean the least you can do is give $2. I'm sure if you can afford take home food then you can do that too. It not then run for Congress, make a new bill that pays service industry workers a minimum wage.
Do I expect? no. But I do get them, so far. I don’t count on it.
The 6 dollar delivery fee doesn’t go into the delivery person pocket I believe, so yes. However, in general tipping has gotten out of control. Everyone wants to be tipped these days for doing their work and that is disgusting.
NYHS. Delivery people in NYC earn a minimum of $18/hour. That’s more than minimum wage. What other workers do you know of who earn $18/Hr that regularly receive tips.
PS, that’s higher than the hourly wage of a drywall installer or a painter. Should you also tip the guys patching your walls when you move out?
I’d never order from a place with a $6 delivery fee in the first place
Rising Star
I’m calling this a win for the non-tippers.
Chief
Gotcha
I try to order from restaurants directly. You save money and make up the savings by tipping the delivery guy the difference of what these apps charge and what you paid. Win win
I want to rephrase this question a bit - if you eat at the restaurant, you tip. That is clear and I begrudgingly abide by it and always give 20% (even though it’s creeping up to 25-30% now which I will not ever do). I pay this tip because of the service provided. But what would you all do if there was a restaurant service fee on top of your meal? Are you still tipping? I’d honestly argue no because that service fee should cover…you guessed it…the service. Waiters that don’t like it, can work elsewhere. Who is with me?
I wouldn’t either at that spot! Where is BCG and the other money out the window tossers on this question?
Rising Star
Yea because that fee is going to the store or the app and not the contractor delivering the food
See above