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If it's an entry level role at an agency you'd love to work at, take it. After all, that's the reason you go to a school like that. If the job is at an agency you feel is beneath your potential, then portfolio school all the way
We use to hire a lot of VCU alums but have stopped in favor of growing strategists from unexpected backgrounds. Take the job and diversify your interests to make yourself competitive.
The job.
Take the job. You’ll get paid to learn vs. pay for the illusion of learning.
If the cost doesn’t matter go to VCU and get those sweet lifelong connections.
An entry level gig at a big agency is a school that (under) pays you. Take the job. You could always take some continuing education courses at night or weekends too.
👆🏻I’m one of those so that’s music to my ears
The job. You’ll learn so much more than you would at Brandcenter.
I am starting to doubt the professionalization of the industry especially in strategy. We need more doers with life experience.
Job job job all day
Get someone else to pay for your training. Take the job
The job. NOTHING teaches like the job. Nothing. You'll also be debt free and you'll be doing actual client work and have actual client experience. And you develop a network for life at the job as well. All of the above assumes you're doing well at it. But if someone is willing to give you the job without you having to go to the school, then take it! You go to school in order to get a job. You don't turn down the actual job for it.
You go to vcu for the job
The network you establish at the school pays off years and decades after, so you have to decide if you want to invest in the future or take the short term gain, neither are wrong but both are different
And I would say my response is really biased toward strategy vs other tracks at vcu, mostly due to the fact there’s not really any other place that teaches the ~craft~ of strategy.
Happy to answer any other questions.
honestly, dumb question.
I had the same opportunity at the beginning of my career if I wanted to go to portfolio school or take a job at a big agency. I’ve learned SO much at the job working with actual clients, managing relationships & dynamics, all the real world shit you don’t get at school. If you have this opportunity without having gone to a school like vcu, you’re lucky... take it now. People go to vcu to be able to get those jobs
Job job job job job job job job job. Get the job
Go for the job. Alumni connections aren’t worth as much as being attached to good work. And you will make connections at your job that will last after you’ve outgrown the school network.
Even if money is not an issue, still take the job. Invest the money you’d put into tuition and in a decade that’s a down payment on a home.
Some of the best young strategists I’ve seen come through my agency have been promoted up from intern and junior positions with backgrounds in sociology or something completely random.
You’ll learn more on the job.