I’m a 38M, divorced about two years back. I’m reasonably healthy and financially stable.

In the last two years, I’ve met three women, all around my age group. I’m starting to notice that all these women carry intense baggage. It all seems great for 3-4 months where they are cute, dressed up, and flirty. Then slowly, I realize they all seem depressed. This is NYC btw. And most of them have never been married.

What is going on? Almost thinking it’s better to stay single as a man.

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That’s why you need to play the slow game and let the true person reveal themselves. Better alone than in a bad situation is my motto

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Everyone carries baggage including yourself. It's a matter of what are you willing to tolerate.

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I feel like you lose a lot of time “finding yourself”

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Some are depressed because they wanted to have been married with children by the time they reach their mid-30’s. Others have unreasonably high expectations that have not been met. They are looking for a human to complete them.

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I see this in a lot of guys as well. People are just moving from relationship to relationship without doing any inner work. I’ve started asking people ‘when was your last relationship and what did you learn from it’ after 3-5 dates. How they talk about their ex and the relationship should give you the info you need

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OP - all of us are broken in some way. Life is really tough in todays world. Being a woman can prove to be very traumatic … No matter who you choose, you ll have to chose to love whatever is broken in them. It’s easy to judge, difficult to walk in someone’s shoes and not be affected. It’s a short life, do what you can for others.

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I’ve dated 7 women between 33-39 in the last 3 years or so. All of them had some childhood trauma from absent dads or emotionally abusive moms. Such traumas led these women to have insecure attachment styles that led them to being anxious and some avoidants… try to learn about their childhood trauma… some may be more self-aware enough to grow, but some are just better left alone…

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YES! THIS!!! AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO LEARN WHAT ONE'S OWN PAST HAS EFFECTED THE PRESENT!!!

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Seems like there is a common demoninator in this equation...it's you. Maybe seek therapy instead of airing your grievances on the internet bro.

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While this is somewhat true... even therapists have biases that they have to combat. Sometimes gathering community advice is the best help, because you're gathering a lot of advice from many perspectives.

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People are often a mirror to show us our own wounds that need healing.. 😉. Oftentimes if we are unable to hold space for another's baggage, we find it hard to hold space for our own..food for thought

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- Not healed from broken relationships
- defensive (and not willing to engage in open communication)
- endless scrolling on the phone (even during movie date nights on the couch)
- lack of confidence and calling themselves ugly when I think (and say) they are beautiful

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Maybe it’s something to do with you since it’s happening with every woman. You might need to evaluate yourself at this point. Sometimes in relationships the first impression isn’t the real you.

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In what ways do they “seem depressed”?

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So true, maybe they're just prudent. Not dressing up every night. Maybe they are thinking about work etc.
Do things need to be flirty 24/7?

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What exactly is the intense baggage?

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Many women have to toughen up and be a man to make it by. They have to be strong and when they do that, it means so many other areas suffer. Letting down her guard is difficult, and shame, depression goes along with it.

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Have you watched the Barbie movie? It explains a lot of how women feel and the pressures on us to look and be perfect at all times. It’s exhausting. Unfortunately some women haven’t learned and never do that they’re enough.

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@Product Manager 1
Not from both?

Honestly…we (as a woman) think men over 30 and never married have issues. Maybe the reverse is true too. Just a number’s game and doesn’t apply to everyone.

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It doesn’t apply to everyone oc when I met an eligible bachelor I would try but they usually want a lot of qualities I don’t have. I date highly successful tall guys and even though I’m desirable but they ask for a lot. I don’t mind divorce guys either since I only want tall and successful regardless of their previous marital status

As a 38F in NYC, the feeling is mutual. Most the men are great the first 3-5 months then their true self comes out. And similarly, most 38 yo men in NYC have never been married🤷‍♀️

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Sad to say but you’ll have better luck in other cities such as Dallas. Places like NYC, Austin, Seattle, San Francisco, etc are not the best places to find what you’re looking for. Trust me on this, I know exactly what you’re talking about. Funny thing I met someone originally from Turkey that lived in NYC for 10 years. We met on a plane in Texas and she had recently moved here. It took a few years, but she has seen the light and is a completely different person in a great way. There is a reason NYC and other places have single women from failed relationships enter 30’s/40’s/50’s and think they’re happy. Truth is they offer nothing towards a real relationship and building a future and potentially a family. As well as being a solid foundation to support you and provide what’s needed to have a sustainable long term relationship. Go find the good women, you either have to move out of NYC to another city in the states. Or I recommend traveling and seeing who you cross paths with. Good luck! 🙂

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What "agendas"?

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Date as many as you want… don’t promise anyone exclusivity. Use protection and you will know the real one when the time comes

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It’s pretty likely. Esp if they followed their advice. Plus it’s in the title. Mr perfect doesn’t exist. They can confirm if they’d like.

I’m sure you’ve got baggage too...full of red flags and zero self awareness.

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Thank you for your input

They’re depressed because we are living in a society that does not prioritize true fulfillment, they are looking for the perfect man, perfect job, perfect purse, perfect selfie…rather than things that bring true fulfillment

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Nothing brings true fulfillment

everything is designed to keep you isolated more and more, dont go out, we will bring it to you , stay inside, get it fast delivered, social media dont meet people heck dont even come into the office anymore stay home, have zoom meetings.. laughs .. what did you think was happening. A.I will eliminate dating altogether as you knew it. characteristic, gene matching will soon occur and you will be paired for procreation only :) hows that.

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Sounds good to me! Can't wait.

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