I’m currently in-house, have been for almost 19 years. I’m exploring options with large defense firms. I know in-house jobs tend to be coveted, but I’m curious as to why? I’ve been an atty for 23 years and I’m sitting in a space where I moved into leadership some years ago. My pay is capped by pay bands, and the growth opportunities are generally non-existent. With 15-20 years left in my career, I’d love to hear some different perspectives. Do I stay or do I go?

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Under $200K seems a bit low…you might consider looking for a different in-house role.

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Agreed. This seems super low with that many EOY. I’d recommend looking at other in-house roles before a firm. It may be quite an adjustment after so many years of being in-house. Do you really feel like drafting a narrative so you can bill for every single email you send????

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Work life balance. I’m a slave to the partners and the clients. Money doesn’t make up for the fact that I feel like I can never disconnect. I worked in the corporate world before law school, and it wasn’t like this.

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Yes, this exactly. Lot of us made our money and paid off our loans and are now ready to see our families again lol

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Maybe I should chuck it all and become a bar tender….lol

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I think about this at least once a week 🤣

Unfortunately that has changed. That is how it was when I started, and I’m grateful for that time to raise my kids. However, as a people leader for litigation in multiple states, I am reviewing files, assigning work, and watching deadlines while on PTO. I do not go anywhere with my laptop and phone. Additionally my 40 hour weeks have been gone a long time. I have lots of flexibility, but I rarely work less than 60 hours a week. I assume this is what it’s like in firm life? But with more $?

My in-house experience is all litigation, jury trials, experts, all the things. No transactional work.

Is money a big consideration for you? I’ve met at least three senior attorneys who stepped back from leadership in-house because of the always on call aspect. They just took senior/manager roles instead of head of X (litigation, or IP, etc). They seem much happier honestly.

I was fine with the money in the spells when I could do my job in 30-40 hours a week or sometimes even less. Now that we are moving back to 60 hours a week, travel, and larger spans of control, and I’m capped at the same money…under $200K (bonus helps a lot, but is discretionary and varies 10-20%), I’m wondering if I would be working similar hours for better pay in a large defense firm.

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