Related Posts
Any good gaming ETF ?
posting my doggie to unlock my DMs, ☺️
Conversation Starter
Overheard on LinkedIn
I want this guy to write my resignation letter lol
Are you saying leadership seminars don't work?!?!
Additional Posts in Law
Oil and gas attorneys what do you do?
How do you wind down after a rough day?
Any intel on Peckar & Abrahams?
New to Fishbowl?
Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
I see that as well and I applaud it. Taking care of yourself, spending time with family, having hobbies, etc. are all very important and make for happier attorneys who are more likely to stick around.
I will say however, that there does seem to be a belief among some that they still deserve top dollar raises and bonuses each year, despite others being in the office more, working later, billing more, marketing, and doing other things. There’s a place for different commitment levels at a large firm. But the people who are the most dedicated to their job should and do get the bigger raises and bonuses. All about what everyone prioritizes and to each their own.
Thanks for your reply
I like it but I’m tired of all the talk from older attorneys saying “people don’t wanna work anymore”. They’re working, they just have stricter boundaries.
I stay late when I need to but I refuse to answer emails after hours when I’m not working late. That doesn’t make me a bad employee, it just means I need time to recover.
Clients add another dimension to the discussion
This post has been made every week for four years. Can we please stop
Agreed but I think everyone comes to this realization at different points and once they become aware, it’s sort of a shock
This whole thread makes me so happy I left private practice. I think I’m gonna go play some guitar!
The newer classes are #cooked. It’s never been easier to stand out from your peers.
The old adage remains true: “the law is a jealous mistress.”
Rising Star
How does one “leave on time” in this profession? When I leave depends entirely on the amount of work on my plate at any given time.
I leave on time pretty much always. But I also set that expectation with my employers and my clients. When clients ask if they can call in the evenings/weekends I simply say, “No, but I am available between 9-5 Monday through Friday.” Nobody is entitled to an explanation. When clients especially try to push for that contact, I will flat out tell them that if they want round the clock attention I am probably not the attorney for them. I say this while acknowledging, I am not interested in a “partnership track” at my current firm, or any firm I’ve ever worked for. I want to do just enough to get my paycheck. I care about this job just enough to get my paycheck. I think we choose what’s important to us based on our own needs. My needs require me to leave on time.
Rising Star
You’ve always been able to find more flexible gigs, but there’s trade-offs: they don’t pay as well.
You want to set boundaries? Good for you, truly. But your manager (who is good at the practice/business of law, not necessarily managing) is still disorganized. And for a reason they can’t put their finger on, they prefer the other associate (who always says yes, actively manages up, ensures a smooth handoff of all tasks). None of those items are technically part of your job, but if you don’t manage them you end up with avoidable fire drills at 4:59 on a Friday.
Rising Star
C1, that’s great! You may not know this, but not all associates do that. There are quite a few (to put it mildly) that don’t.
Good workers that are healthy, good physique, good morals, and have strong family values, will always have boundaries. They are not the problem if they get their work done. Employers are the problem if they think there is a problem. Or the work culture is the problem. Either way, these good employees will flee somewhere where they are truly appreciated bc they’re likely sensible and personable.
Would you say that some of the new associates are getting tired faster? That’s one of the concerns I have with the new attorneys who are not used to the demands of litigation.