Is it still true that there are too many lawyers, or was that only true during the great recession and recovery period? If so, has the situation gotten any better or worse?

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Nowhere as bad as 2010 but definitely still is and likely always be true. Since law school admissions are not regulated like med school, most schools are profit machines where the most likely outcome is no job or a job that won’t pay off the debt unless you do the 10 year public service forgiveness (which is a good path).

If you go to a T14 law school, you will be fine with whatever you want to do. If you go to a T50, you have the potential to break in to whatever you want to do but the average starting salary potential will be half of T14 and getting a big law or federal government job in your career will not be easy. A T100, a third of the starting salary. T200, if your school does not get shut down and you pass the bar, may still have some difficult finding legal jobs you want.

That said, if salary isn’t a priority and you don’t mind grinding through law school and entry level jobs for awhile, you will always find jobs somewhere and with enough work, luck, and time, you can probably work your way up to somewhere you like.

TLDR: only too many lawyers if you go to the wrong law school (speaking from someone who went to the wrong law school but eventually managed to break in to big law).

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Agree with SA1 here. There’s always too many law schools pooping out too many “lawyers” who often can’t even pass the bar.

I know someone who went to a non-ABA school in CA and he was one of two people who passed the bar in his class of like 50 people. He’s in a decent paying (non-biglaw) job that pays slightly more than half of the biglaw market scale.

I made the stupid decision of going to T-14 and had biglaw as soon as I graduated but I also had $200k+ of loans. It all depends on what you want to do because generally speaking it will be hard to break into certain areas of law with a lower ranked school.

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Too many lawyers, no. Too many people that think they want to be lawyers, yes.

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I went to an unranked law school and went directly in house to a fortune 50 company. I think it is unique to your skills and abilities.

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That’s amazing!

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Went to regional law school. Prospects sucked. Went to GT/NYU for tax LLM. Got job at accounting making low six figures. Life ain’t bad.

I think there’s a shortage of support staff (paralegals and legal assistants- good ones anyway). Same with lawyers. Good ones stay and stay long enough to make partner. I also find that most new lawyers have the intention or the draw to be a litigator as that’s what movies and tv show, and how glamorous (lol) it is.

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