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Im not searching for a new job but an acquaintance reached out about a similar role at a similar energy company.Turns out 2 ppl threw my name in the hat. I looked into it and the position was posted 2 weeks ago.Their director wants to meet.I bet pay is one of the first things to be discussed so that no one’s time is wasted.Am I crazy for not wanting to entertain it for less than 20-25% base pay increase?Is it selfish to ask for more? I’m sure most salary conversations end in negotiation anyways?
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I’d say if you’ve been there now 6+ years and it’s been four years, since you’ve had a raise and now they want to move you or just add to your plate again more responsibilities with a probability of no raise or no promotion…… perfect time, even though the market can be rough I’d say to start putting yourself out there and knowing all that you’ve done and how much you’ve improved your current company. These are all great things that you can elaborate on via the STAR method when you have conversations in interviews at different companies. I watched a guy who could do anything and everything and they just kept throwing more on him and he never got the promotions and they gave him piss poor raises and sadly that sucker is still at the company that I left years ago because I know if he left, he could more than double his salary elsewhere, but sometimes people get comfortable and scared to put themselves out there and those folks will continually be passed over because management knows you’re the goat to guy and they’re not paying you more money so it’s a win-win for them and you just suck it up thinking that someday you’re gonna get a promotion and they just string you along because that’s what corporate America loves to do. Good luck to you. I hope that all things work well but I think you should definitely have someone else said bring it up because if you don’t ask, the answer is always now and if you do say YES to taking on this new work and still they don’t give you a razor promotion for it then definitely start putting your résumé all over the place. You got nothing to lose by applying and trying at other places
More context: in that time I've delivered countless product features on time, and with exceptional quality (never breaking production and hardly any bugs). In my view, the most robust engineer in my immediate team which has 3 squads. I am also an engineer that cares a lot about our users, and have always helped steered product designs for the benefit of our customers.
In the 4 years, I've won 2 founders prize in our annual hackerthons. One saving time for all our engineers every day, and was part of a hackerthon project that lead to our 1st AI feature, a game changer for our customers and in my view also for our product.
Aside from all that, I am always improving our tooling and processes without being asked. I help with hiring, mentoring mid engineers and onboarding new senior engineers.
I think the reason why they want me to move laterally to the other squad in the team is because they are worried about delivery in that team.
Ideally they should create a new Staff Software Engineer role for me, which doesn't exist. But given I've been passed for promotion all the time, I doubt that will happen and might even be looked upon unfavourably to ask.
I don't really understand the promotion game, any advice is much appreciated.
If you are already doing work on the next level, that’s what you need to bring up. Everything you’ve done, accomplished, and positive impacts you’ve made. From there, it’s a matter of them promoting you or you letting them know you’ll put a pin in those duties until it’s time to have that conversation again.