Thinking about the 72andSunny CD who saged the office after a round of layoffs, don’t text

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Hello CD/ECDs. Are there any tips on how to negotiate severance pay?

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As many of us navigate the challenges of negotiating during Covid layoffs, my question is what do you think is a good, fair and realistic salary for an independent agency to offer a Creative Director with 10+ years of experience in metro Detroit, considering the current economic climate?

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Can someone please refer me to a Labor Lawyer in NYC? A coworker got laid off without a warning or evaluation process, just because our creative director had personal issues with her. We think she has a case. She’s a great creative and deserve justice.

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Agency has seen a lot of turnover due to layoffs and departures. How much notice would you expect a group creative director to give with that context?

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I’ve applied to over 40 jobs since I was laid off in March. Not one click to my portfolio, per analytics. With a family of four, we are being spread thin. Not only is the income desperately needed, but my creative soul needs a release. I would be happy to do typical Art Director work but I’m “over qualified” for that and am never taken seriously when applying for work below CD/ACD. If anyone needs or know of any company needing freelance work, large or small—I’d really appreciate the lead. 🙏

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I’ve applied to over 40 jobs since I was laid off in March. Not one click to my portfolio, per analytics. With a family of four, we are being spread thin. Not only is the income desperately needed, but my creative soul needs a release. I would be happy to do typical Art Director work but I’m “over qualified” for that and am never taken seriously when applying for work below CD/ACD. If anyone needs or know of any company needing freelance work, large or small—I’d really appreciate the lead. 🙏

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When your mother wants to have a condescending argument when I tell her that I’m not qualified for the “creative director” position she sent from craigslist. Then continues to say, ‘well you don’t know until you try’. When I tell her I’m not qualified, she responds, ‘okay well you’re not qualified lets move on to a other topic’. Considering I’m a recently laid off junior, and she doesn’t seem to understand the ladder of career development. 🙄🙄🙄 Save me!

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My ECD was really pushing for me to get promoted to CD. Our group president wanted to see more townhall presentations by me and if I do so I can get promoted to CD in October, he promised. Unfortunately, I will get laid off this month. What title do I give myself best on LinkedIn and my resume? Shall I go for CD? As the company will pay few more months of salary I’m thinking of keeping the company name on LinkedIn as well. Awkward to change title to CD at xxx?

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I just got laid off, and I’m not even mad about the job, but they literally didn’t even tell my CD before they let me go, then asked me not to tell anyone before they announced it to the network. I’m sorry, but on what planet am I not hanging up from that call and immediately calling my CD? Which is exactly what I did. They locked me out of my computer so I couldn’t even pass off files, plus it locked me out MID-call where I was being let go. Very professional. Also, my CCO didn’t even know. 🖕🏻

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Laid off yesterday. Being a foreign talent, am I still able to find a gig here Stateside? Should I stay or find a gig back home before my work visa expires? I’m just a highly awarded copywriting CD.

DDB Chicago is hiring a CD/Copy: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/1802167864 Seems tone deaf to post this the day after massive layoffs, but I’m sure they have a reason. Recruiter info: taylor.styduhar@ddb.com 312-552-6254

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DDB Chicago is hiring a CD/Copy: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/1802167864 Seems tone deaf to post this the day after massive layoffs, but I’m sure they have a reason. Recruiter info: taylor.styduhar@ddb.com 312-552-6254

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DDB Chicago is hiring a CD/Copy: https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/1802167864 Seems tone deaf to post this the day after massive layoffs, but I’m sure they have a reason. Recruiter info taylor.styduhar@ddb.com 312-552-6254

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Massive layoffs happened on Friday, and my CD was let go. He hired me, and we had a great work relationship. Today I just feel lost and weird. He won't be replaced because there's "no budget"...

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Laid off after Thanksgiving. 54. Not done yet. Plenty to offer. In Detroit but ready and able to move anywhere. AD/CD. Hangin in there. How bout you?

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Art Director: *gets laid off* Art Director on LinkedIn: *updates title to Freelance Creative Director* ....no.

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Recently got laid off. After recruiters, applying online (Black Hole) & reaching out to my immediate contacts, I broke & checked out where former interns landed. One is now CD. Ok to contact re lead?

I used to freelance at a small in-house studio for a hospitality group and learned that the CD got fired. He contacted me about a new “side project" and I learned he wants me to make his portfolio.

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What exactly does VP mean? Contractual obligation, reports to President? Can’t get fired? What are pros and cons if any of a position like VP Creative Director, etc.

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My CD is about to get fired because my partner and I are leaving. The reason? “He can’t keep a team for any length of time.” We’ve been there 2 years, what do they want, a lifelong commitment ?

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Hey CD who just laughed at my “layoffs at the White House” post, you should give me a job. 😏

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Be on the lookout for a CD who just left (was fired from) FCB Chicago. He likes to get blackout drunk and give impromptu “reviews” to people on his team. Which are really just verbal abuse. Report it.

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I’ve seen a dozen CDs try to engineer a turnaround at an agency, all of them failed and got fired. Has anyone been through a successful turnaround with a new CD? Were there any observable changes?

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Who's the first creative director to get fired due to to sexual harassment, post-Weinstein?

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Has anyone been fired and then ended up killing it elsewhere? Kinda feel like writing a thank you note to that asshole CD who told me I️ wasn’t at the “same level” as my fellow cws

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TBWA\CD, Leo, CP+B, Media Arts Lab. This week has been a layoff shitshow. Hope all those affected land on their feet soon!

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What are the weirdest reasons you have heard for people being laid-off? Heard someone getting laid off because of submitting wack expenses.

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What are people seeing for severance in this time? Anything outside of normal?

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Current project leadership is like gorilla glue and won't let people off. How to roll off without doing something that would get you fired?

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Do you think more agency layoffs are on the way, or are we now in the recovery phase?

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Layoffs

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People who stay in Consulting for the long term must have hearts of steel. Between the lay-offs, roll offs, politics, and getting fired/yelled at by the client it’s been a busy year

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Staff 2, worked at 3 clients in the past busy season. Around 70% of my feedback are “Often”, 20% “Usually” and 10% “Always”. Shall I worry about being fired?

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What happens if the engagement I was a senior on gets bad reviews from inspection. Will I get fired?

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Disney streaming announced major reorganization. Any ideas on what this entails? More layoffs? Just got an offer from Disney Streaming and one from FAANG so trying to weigh the better options

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Why do D layoffs target newer people? I know of several people with great reviews + high utilization but less than 1 year tenure and were let go. Whereas some with several years of tenure but mediocre/good ratings still have a job.

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I have heard Deloitte cut recruitment and had layoffs this year. But their revenue and headcount number online show increase. Could anyone explain what's going on in Deloitte? Is it industry wise prob

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Anyone know how deep PwC is going with the layoffs in August? I know it was 10-15% for most groups in June so just wondering if it will be smaller since they just went so deep.

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Claim unemployment or try to find your hardest to find a job in the next month and omit the layoff? I want to rush but not settle. Definitely don't want to go back into consulting.

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Awkward scenario of the day: you and your colleague have know for weeks your colleague has a target on her back and will most likely be laid off. In your 230pm 1:1 your director ells you that (cont.)

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Deloitte FL/PR is turning into a joke.. if firm morale wasn't already suffering from layoffs, they increase minimum hours through December while half the offices are unassigned. Abandon ship.

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There's a Pwc intern getting fired somewhere

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Layoffs are the only way the industry will survive. A Great Depression is imminent. There is no other way this will all end.

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Adweek reporting on the impact of COVID-19 on the industry and the massive downturn and layoffs, yet still paywalls its news. Frustrating to say the least as we try to stay informed.

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The 4s that got laid off, does anyone know the time frame from when they found out their rating and to when they were actually told of their lay off?

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Taking PTO. Don’t @ me.

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Did you see the IBM third quarter results. Layoffs soon?

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Does anyone have experience filing for Social Security disability (mental health). Any pro tips to navigate the system?

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What is the lowest salary you heard/know of for NY Tax Senior Manager?

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Accepted a PM role at FAANG yesterday! Just wanted to send out good vibes to anyone interviewing or thinking of leaving 🤙🏼

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What are all the qualms with the health insurance industry? I’m joining an insurance startup and plan to explore the context

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Stop using RobinHood, Merrill Lynch & TD. These buggers sided with Wallstreet against us retards. I am opening account in eTrade (which hasn’t blocked any GME or AMC)

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Recruiter wants to give me a call with an offer (assuming). Can I ask them to send me an official offer letter with comp and give me a week to decide?

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Should I take up a position at a startup? It’s similar to what I’m doing but probably more visibility without the long hours and stress. Or should I wait to get a similar job at a big company?

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