Just saw another of those LinkedIn posts from a CEO saying they hired a Gen Z with no experience because they were nice and polite and showed the potential to learn.....

.... As someone whose job is dependent on the ability of the brand manager to have the ability to convey ideas to and from the client..... and dependent on creatives to give clear and concise direction with well thought out concepts....

..... PLEASE for the love of god stop hiring people with no experience

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I disagree. Entry-level jobs are supposed to be for people with no experience. Mind you, this doesn’t mean you hand them the reins. Their manager should teach and mentor them.

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Not enough internships to go around, can’t get experience without experience. That CEO paid it forward.

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do you not remember being in that position? have some compassion. those linkedin posts are annoying yes but the lesson behind them is that everyone starts somewhere..

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Do your homework and understand the biases of our industry. Hire the not-traditionally experienced all day.

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Okay, but then have the proper people train them. It’s not my job to train people from other departments, but more and more it’s falling to me and my staff to do just that. Or spend stupid amounts of time cleaning up after people’s mistakes - mistakes that wouldn’t happen if those people were experienced or got trained.

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So this is an interesting conversation bc I am all for hiring people with non traditional experience. HOWEVER there has to be the staffing and bandwidth for someone to actually train them. I’ve been at so many agencies that hired people with different experiences or as “hybrid creatives,” and then they set them adrift in a sea with no training to even a dedicated manager.

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THIS is more my point than anything. We have a lot of holes to fill and the work is so fast that inexperienced people being hired are never trained to do the job and are just thrown into the thick of it, making the rest of us pick up the slack

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Wait, you think that LinkedIn post was based a true story?

And even if it was, good on the CEO. I’m getting sick of how much bottlenecking is involved with breaking into this industry. Quit gatekeeping entry level jobs.

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If we stopped hiring people with no experience, how will new people ever enter the industry. I'm sure that you were at one point hired with no experience.

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I think the underpinning of this post is actually about bad managers in agency land. OP seems to be frustrated that they’re having to train new hires that aren’t in their department. Ad agencies will never become more diverse if we don’t bring in new types of experiences AND train them to succeed.

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Ironically, a Motion Designer typically has no managerial experience, and also no experience in hiring. Yet this post is trying to teach us how to manage and hire.

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