Noob question- is 1800 hours a lot?

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I don’t think it’s a lot in that I think it’s manageable and you can achieve a solid wlb. I do think it’s enough.

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It’s more than I care to work, but you do you. Some people bill far more than that.

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Depends. For BigLaw, not at all.

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This guide from YLS provides a good overview of the difference between 1800 hours and 2200 hours: https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/area/department/cdo/document/billable_hour.pdf

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Thanks - interesting link

I think it is, but most will say it's just average.

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Only if it’s October and the year ends on 12/31. But it really does depend.

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It depends on region, firm, compensation, etc. But, I would say 1800 is average or a little below average. My firm requires 1900 in the offices where associates get paid less due to lower cost of living (or so they say), and 2000 in the others.

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I work at a 1800 hours required firm. Started and was told 1500 is the norm. So it depends.

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1,800 hours per year is about 7.5 billable hours per day assuming you don’t work any weekends and don’t take vacations. If you account for non-billable work, you will probably end up billing around 1,925 per year. That is plenty of work. You will do fine if you focus on quality and not quantity.

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1,800 is not particularly “a lot” in biglaw that anyone would be amazed, at some firms, it’s below average. At others it’s above average. It depends

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I don’t think 1800 is a lot

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But it does depend on how much you are getting paid

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What would you all say is a decent salary (range) at this requirement? I say range because I understand it depends on COL.

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I work in Ohio for 1800 hrs and make $70k 😭 quitting soon tho lol

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Not for big law

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Should have mentioned the salary is $115,000. Boutique.

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Depending on practice year and city, I’d say 1800 is probably fair

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Depends on salary

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I’ve been billing 2100 plus for many years - light year being about 2060 because I took a couple weeks off after my son was born, and heaviest year probably a little under 2400. This is honest but unforgiving time entry and without padding/fraud.

Its doable if you are efficient and dedicated and healthy. But it is actually really difficult to do it consistently and honestly. That Yale thing posted above really made me think about how much time I have burned over the years. Kinda depressing.

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The only times it realistically “slows down” are the week of Christmas and 4th of July. I try to take about a week during those times of the year, and I’ll just sort of work the bare minimum and address anything that can’t reasonably be put off (example I worked maybe like an hour a day a few days the week of Christmas). Some years you just can’t ever take off because of trials Or opposing counsel/judges that seem to derive a sick pleasure from making you hate your own existence. Occasionally I’ll hit a week where I just burn out so bad that I have headaches and brain fog and can maybe manage to bill 5 hours a day, but that usually coincides when my weight is up and my back is killing me, etc. it’s not glamours. It’s a nonstop never ending grind. I don’t know why I still do it. I wish I didn’t sometimes, but I got a family to feed and have been poor before. Fear and poverty are great motivators. That’s more info than you asked for. Haha. Sorry.

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Depends

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No.

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It’s not a lot in the sense that an 1800-hour req is considered on the standard to low side for many firms. However, as the Yale post points out, it’s still a lot to manage. My first firm had a 2100 hour requirement and it was near-impossible to hit without living at work.

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What firm was that, please?

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