Received an offer for an EA position for $57k. I informed the company I would like $80k-$90k and they came back and offered $80k (+ bonuses, profit sharing 401k). Now my current company wants 24 hours to counter, I was paid $66k and recently got a raise to $72k but now they will minimally have to offer $90k+ for me to even consider staying.

Should I set sail for new horizons ? Should I counter again with the new company or is that greedy considering how far they came up? EA is a new position.

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There is a reason that most people who accept counter offers still end up leaving within a few months; because money alone is usually not the only factor that causes people to look. If they could have been paying you $12k+ more for a year or more before you sought another offer elsewhere, then you know that they don't value you or they would have paid you more sooner.

Take the new offer. Congrats and good luck!

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Agreed, one of my regrets to be completely honest. I walked into my boss’s office told him that I was quitting. Got a better job offer across the street. He stood up, walked across the room, closed the door and said how much money is it gonna take to keep you here. I gave him the number he didn’t even flinch. He gave it to me. Then the next six months was pretty miserable. I got more money, but still hated the culture the structure the environment and then ended up quitting six months later. I should’ve just accepted the job, stuck to my guns and left. By staying I missed a great opportunity to join a great company. 

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As someone who worked in recruitment, taking a counter offer is never good.

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Why be loyal to a company that could RIF a person, maybes give the person 15 min to get their stuff and escort them to their car or the property gate to ensure they leave. If two weeks notice is the minimum professional standards for employees, why aren’t large company’s held to the same standard.
My last company did give me two weeks, but I’ve seen the same company pop a surprise HR meeting and the person barely got time to get their personal stuff, and it wasn’t for cause.

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Google the stats. Accepting a counteroffer to remain with an employer is not a good idea. Very few of the employees remain with the company long term. Some companies immediately look to replace the person at lower cost and the counter offer is intended to keep a warm body there until a new one is found. If you really love your work, it is best to have a talk with the boss before it comes to this. Show salary surveys, accomplishments.... Consider if a move into a different department would provide the income and challenge you need. If this fail, move on.

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Look forwards and not back. Climate, Culture and Compensations are the reasons people start looking for new opportunities. Typically, it takes 2 or more of these to drive someone to start looking. Its typically not comp. Usually, someone starts looking because the climate has changed (boss dynamic), or the company culture has changes (DEI, change in strategy). Once someone starts looking, then they experience the comp disparity.

Remember, with a counter, they culture is still the same. They climate is still the same. I'd accept the new position and move forward.

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So you like driving and it’s easy, there are other jobs in the company though, take a course at night online better yet if your a self trainer then get knowledge (money) then before all this is happing hint tell a few and get to know the next one up then tell him you want a better job you always work up in a company you say and he might agree do go for it learn take a new position with the companies OK and people will respect you they might even have a better position Alberts retiring in 2 months so some one moving up and there ya go truck driver to shipping manager show them what things go where! You did it and the company likes you and if you’re good enough the people will congratulate you! ( No one likes to stay behind encourage others to do what you did and then the company takes a leap forward and everyone’s making more money and happy cause they tried! That felled good always!

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Something to think about...instead of submitting the offer from your soon-to-be employer to your current employer in a hopes that they counter with more money to get you to stay, instead go to your current employwer and do not tell them you were offered a job elsewhere, but instead approach them simply requesting a raise (with the supporting proof and reasons why you deserve it). Let them think on it, and see what they reply with.

If they come back and say "sorry we just can't afford it" or "you are already capped out at the industry range for your position" and turn your raise down or maybe offer you an insultingly low raise, you will know whether they truly value you or not and whether they truly want to pay you more because they want you to say OR if they want to secretly hunt for your replacement behind your back.

If they deny a raise or offer you way less than the new employer offer, then I would take the new position and turn in your notice to your current employer.

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Never never accept a counter offer from your current employer. The moment you tender, they know you are no longer loyal. By offering a higher salary, they are trying to make use of you to keep the business going while on the lookout for your replacement, Once they have got that person, they will kick you out. Look far. Do not be fooled by the candy on the table now.

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I do not understand your thinking.??? You just received a raise at $72K and was offered $80K for a new position at a new company, ok? Why do you feel your current company has to offer a minimum of $90K? What is wrong with you and your GREED? Play games and lose both positions.

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I wouldn't counter the new company, look at it as a win. As some one that has left a company after working there for many years it was still the best thing I could have done. If the current company doesn't value you and you already have something lined up I would take the new role asap.

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If your current employer really valued you, it would have already given you that salary. Now, they're asking to video time while they consider an increase; and then what? Will they lay you off or fire you after, say, six months?

Go with the other company and don't look back.

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I have a nice story. I was frustrated with my job, feeling that I wasn't appreciated and I was not getting what I deserved. I had multiple conversations with my manager about promotion, but it wasn't on the table. I went and applied and interviewed around, got an offer of what I wanted exactly, but I had concerns about going to that company as it had lower reputation than where I was at. I brought the offer to my manager asked him to match it, he said no. Then, I just happened by chance to volunteer to do talk for new grads together with other speakers representing our company. I had a chat with a woman exec we did a presentation with, I mentioned my dilemma how frustrated I was with my current job and that I was thinking of leaving and accepting the offer and I asked for an advice. She happened to be two levels higher than my manager. Then the boss of my boss, our CIO personally called me after work hours and asked me to stay. There was no written agreement and we only discussed a promotion and not salary. Him calling me personally made up for all the frustrations I experienced from my manager that pushed me for a job search. I agreed to stay, got a promotion, got the raise that matched the offer. Later I got featured in a company video demoing my project. My peers were not happy but I got a good reputation from all this. I did other internal job switches after. So I got lucky. But I became really loyal to the company and to the people who helped me.
Btw I was also almost fired from the same company at the beginning, but I asked them for another chance and to try and put me on a different project because I heard they were short on resources. Later on I got an apology for wrongfully blaming me, the project was mismanaged and the PM was to blame.

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Be careful, i know someone who for higher salary and stayed and a month later they fired her.

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I'd like to find out about the job

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It's not always about the monetary value, rather the working conditions, working relationships, working vibes and energy, the joy of seeing your colleagues, the serenity you enjoy while working, if you truly love the job and you're happy working in the organization etc, if you got all that in this organization you're at, then you've got to cross your Ts and dot your Is, except you're the type that loves to explore other working environment

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A lot depend on your choices. How long a commute, do you get along with your current coworkers, and is their potential for a promotion?

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Ok, what service I will render to human beings in the health sector or in a healthcare home is and should be of paramount concern to me, my work ethics, and all that.

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It depends on if you are happy in your current job. If you are looking for a new position because you aren't making enough money, then counter. If you are looking for a new position because you want a change / new challenge, then don't counter.

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I would actually consider staying with your current employer UNLESS you don't like the work you're doing there. I would also let the other company let them know your job wants to keep you and offered a little more, despite it being true, and negotiate for $85k. WE are not greedy enough!!

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