Sometimes I hate public accounting.

An example - the expectation that people are always available outside reasonable work hours for non-urgent items. Just all the little things that can be managed on their own but also quickly add up to a toxic environment that seemingly you as the person doing the grunt are expected to set boundaries for to create your own healthy environment in the absence of the company creating one. That’s the rant, I’m sure others can relate.

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You set up your own boundaries, like not responding until the next business day’s business hours, saying no and you push back. Protecting your boundaries is important and unfortunately the industry is like that.

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It’s not that hard to do though. I’m Director and I set my phone up so that after 6:30 pm all teams and outlook notifications are nonexistent. I don’t get notified until 7 am the next day. It’s never been an issue.

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I’ve been in PA for nearly 8 years and have never responded to non-urgent things outside of regular working hours and never had any issues. Maybe it’s a specific issue with your supervisor(s)?

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In that case I would just respond the next day during your regular working hours. I would think its more understandable when there are different timezones in the mix

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I think it depends on the people you work with. Not necessarily public accounting thing. I had a manager who used to send long emails that often sounded passive aggressive. She often did it after normal business hours and weekends, and if you have outlook app on your phone, you can imagine how I felt seeing those emails. Glad not be working with her anymore. Some people say about setting up your boundaries, but it may hurt your feedback reviews sometimes (esp. when your supervisor is working at odd hours and expects you to do the same or just wants you work non-stop for whatever reason). I would say try networking, asking people about their experiences, find another team/firm to work for.

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Are they conveying it as urgent and you just feel like it isn’t? If they’re not saying it’s urgent, I think it’s fair for them to send and you to ignore until your working hours. With people who work on teams across time zones I’ve seen people put their work hours in their email signature. Maybe that could help clarify your time.

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Yes I have a message in my signature that states it’s not necessary to respond outside of working hours.

It’s just the requests for late meetings, etc that get tiring sometimes, whether conveyed as urgent - necessarily so or not

Unless the person is saying it’s urgent, I would assume it is not. I like to send out assignments in the evening. It’s so that my team isn’t waiting for me to tell them what to do the next morning. I don’t expect them to do it when I send it unless I’ve communicated to them that it needs to be done immediately. Maybe just turn notifications off on Teams and Outlook after a certain time.

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Is it from your superiors or your clients? Put your phone on "do not disturb" - if it's family, they probably have another method of contacting you. Also, set an "out of office" message that says you'll be back in the office tomorrow morning. My wife has it the other way - constant texts from underlings of a non-important nature in the evening.

I have it like your wife, with underlings constantly sending messages. But also a client in a timezone behind me. Everything is on DND but it just gets tiring at tomes

I hate everything being “my responsibility“.

Too much work to reasonably fit into a week? My responsibility to find time to do it. Other team members not doing their piece? My responsibility to manage them and make sure they understand expectations. Junior team members with the technical knowledge? My responsibility to teach and upskill them. Overwhelmed by the unrealistic expectations? My responsibility to set boundaries.

Any complaints seem to be twisted to blame the victim

Welcome to the real world. Everything in your life is your responsibility

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