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l am currently a rising junior in
college interning this summer at
Amazon as a Business Analyst. I
would really like to break into
product management and believe in
my 5 weeks so far I have shown skills
to back that up. Would it be
acceptable to ask my manager to
recommend me for a product
management internship next
summer? My midpoint meeting with
my manager (and his manager) is
next Friday
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Because in America we equate impact with how much we spend and invest. We’re a productive place but not an efficient place. Always been like this
Rising Star
Associate, I disagree unless you ignore entirety of American history because of a Chinese startup.
Bizarre point of view. American companies have never been efficient. Cool
Rising Star
This is a good article that describes the “how” if you don’t want to read the paper they published which goes into super details : https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/china-deepseek-ai-nvidia-openai-02bdbbce?st=j3rgym&reflink=article_copyURL_share
Verdict is out on extent of this breakthrough. No denying that they have optimized OpenAI approach for scan data sources for right answers and thereby using much less compute power. BUT it is not 100% sure if they didn’t use Nvidia’s advance chips. It is China after all , where government has a lot of say and propaganda is baked in.
Either way, great for AI space. US tech companies need to rationalize spending and now focus on cost
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Their white paper is online and their code is on GitHub for all to see
A tale as old as time. This is what China does. It’s in their DNA to make something cheaper and/or more efficient.
The beauty of it all, in the article-stopped reading there, btw-is they are using fresh grads, unlike American companies making 8-10 years of experience the minimum for ANY tech role.
Because Americans throw money at every situation
Chief
https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2023/11/technological-stagnation-is-a-choice/
Prob subsidized by the CN government
Apparently this is another case of IP theft by Chinese tech: https://www.reuters.com/technology/microsoft-probing-if-deepseek-linked-group-improperly-obtained-openai-data-2025-01-29/. The AI technique of 'distillation' uses the prompt responses of an existing AI model (in this case, OpenAI's) to train a new AI model. This was previously known to be a much cheaper way to develop a new AI model. It's also a violation of the terms of use that the DeepSeek team would have had to agree to in order to access the OpenAI API.
China has a long history of stealing IP from other (mostly Western) companies in order to boost its own industries (e.g. Huawei stealing from Nortel 25 years ago: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hershshefrin/2018/12/10/huawei-pain/). This is of course not only tolerated by the Chinese government, but supported with state resources (hackers, etc.) (e.g. https://www.wired.com/story/sophos-chengdu-china-five-year-hacker-war/).
Some find this incident ironic, in that OpenAI is itself accused by some of IP theft in using proprietary data from the Internet (New York Times, etc.) to train its own AI model, so in that sense some may consider this a case of karma.
Chief
OpenAI's defense rests on "fair use". "fair use" is broad enough that most AI companies will likely get away with it, but much like in music, you will be able to derive the original from the copy. Ice Ice Baby is Queen's under pressure with one added note to the signature riff. I think in that case the label settled but a lot of music trials are essentially tossups.
https://originality.ai/blog/fair-use-and-ai
I'm honestly not sure what to think of this, reactions range from it being a "Sputnik moment" to people downplaying it. From what I've read, what they did seems to make sense. And the accusations that they're using stolen hardware or IP are interesting, and of course that wouldn't be surprising. It'll be interesting to see how the government deals with this. The Trump admin is flummoxed by a Chinese social media app, so the idea of a Chinese AI app making inroads is bound to be a wild ride.
Chief
All AI is built off of stolen material. This is one reason it was intended to be "free" in the first place (they can't sell what they don't own). Also, Zuck and crew are more than willing to pay measly fines for scanning copyrighted material. So companies like Reddit took payouts for their material and dropped their lawsuits. Reddit gets $60 million from Google for its data. New York Times made a deal with OpenAI for its data.
https://www.reddit.com/r/google/comments/1ax1nyh/reddit_has_struck_a_60_million_deal_with_google/
Interesting take on things… https://youtube.com/shorts/rTbFWN3VFXM?si=NSeYnizNQTxzi4Cy
Better technology with better financial management?
Sounds about right, America needs to get their sht together.
The price for AI will always be at a premium, as it will prove humans will never get along with machines, schools, guns, Abortions, etc. and so forth..
btw, china did not need a technical support team to steal the millions of dollars in technology from the US. What is so odd is, everyone forgets how Airplanes, skyscrapers, jobs, and everything AI, cost them nothing to steal. My last job was infilturated by the thieves of China, and it seems, they have gotten better in covering their budgetary thiefs When you have no investment, it is likely you had it stolen from underneath your noses! Like the South, we must cut off 100% of all Chinese until we figure out how to communicate with each other in a way that no one can eavesdrop. I lost my job to a family of 4, all Chinese with 3 of them illegal aliens. No other country wants them, and we are all tired of losing our jobs to theft and cheap labor that is cheap because of the methods to obtain the knowledge is mostly stolen!
My concerns are about recordings keystrokes. Anyone have more information about that?