What are unsaid rules for POC in PA? Or what do you wish someone had told you when you first started out?

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Get the CPA soon. They judge you if you don’t

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Once you’ve reached a reviewer level, remember to treat up and coming POC fairly, i.e. don’t be ten times more critical as you would be if they were a non-POC. I made this mistake a few years ago and the associate left the firm very shortly after. As POCs that ultimately reach a management level and become more involved in recruiting and retention, I believe it is incumbent upon us to work to end the notion and trend, and the resulting pressure that we have to be 10x better than our non-POC counterparts for the same job and compensation.

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It’s ok to be yourself. When asked about your weekend, it’s ok to say you went to Afropunk or the family cookout. I used to be very vague or evasive about my experiences because I felt like I was on an island because I knew nothing about going golfing or camping like my counterparts… this was quickly misconstrued as me being shy or or stand-offish.

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You'll be the only POC in the room more often than not. Be confident

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Find a mentor for yourself as soon as possible - preferably both a bit higher up, and much higher up to guide your steps. If you can find both POC and nonPOC mentors, even better. Different views add up.
Don’t say sorry a lot, even as a coping mechanism because you think it makes the moment friendlier. It impacts how you’re viewed. Blind spots and unconscious bias, are real. Halo effect is real. Retaliation is real. Being pushed out when you don’t fit is real. Yes everyone is aware you’re the only POC, even when saying insensitive comments.
Your mistakes may be viewed more critically, so be thoughtful and careful. Listen more than you speak, but make sure you speak. You need to be viewed as a contributor. When dealing with passive aggressiveness, micro aggressions, gaslighting and hypersensitivity, you won’t win giving them what they give you. Be your best self but remember you are not the standard, so your “norm” is not someone else’s norm or even acceptable.

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This is the best advice, I've seen. Wish I would have truly understood it all earlier on my career.
Thank you.

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Don’t be afraid to ask others for help and you aren’t alone, I learned this the hard way 😅

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Build the network (like this one), as it helps with having resources with situations that come up and if nothing else, you learn that you're not the only one on an island.

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Anyone have experience working in house at Allstate? Seeing a lot of mixed reviews online. Trying to escape firm ID work.

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Hi all..
Does any one know how much would AIRBNB offer for the role of Project coordinator with 5 YWE.
Thanks

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Does anyone know if Deloitte is continuing to file I140s given the GC pause only impacts PERM applications

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top 50 school with a BSC in psychology (3.73 GPA) now working in sales at unicorn tech, volunteer weekly and just turned 23. What else would people recommend for getting into T15?

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Does anyone else feel depressed, sick and just totally burned out after this busy season?

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What’s the fastest way to get kicked off an audit engagement? Apply for a job at the client? Can’t stand my manager.

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But, I mean, her emails…

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For those who have applied for an ILR-
I’m changing jobs, new company sponsors my work. visa, 2ish years to go for an ILR.

What documents should I request from my old employer before leaving? Are there any documents needed from my employer for ILR application?

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Subject matter eligibility "doctrines" .... lol amirite?

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I switched to my current role with the verbal agreement that I would be third teir support - there will always be someone else between the customer and me. I recently found out that a new distributor doesn't want to stand up a support desk to do that for at least a year, leaving my team as first point of contact if anything goes wrong with a system.

Am I in a position where I can ask to renegotiate my compensation, even through I don't have a written job description?

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Hi Fishes,

YOE: 6.6 years
Profile: Java backend
Having offer of 25~26 from
CGI
CompuCom
Publicis Sapient
UST

Confused which one should I pick?
What is company standard pay slab for my experience?

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What to do when HR is refusing give salary range for internal jobs ?

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Received an offer for Manager in IQVIA strat consulting. $175k base + 20% bonus. Is there room to negotiate for a higher base?

Coming in as an experienced industry hire. HCOL location. 5yrs pharma exp and a T20 MBA.

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Anyone in energy regulatory affairs here? My primary interests are in renewables but I’m finding myself getting interviews mainly from oil and gas. (They do however boast that they are seeking people in environmental law to hold them accountable. ) Would this work experience be viewed poorly by people in the environmental law/ energy reg field especially for future career prospects? Or would it be seen as an asset? Just trying to evaluate my options.

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Bowl Leader - this bowl is turning into a political battleground. Can we simply ban all types of political discussions? We could have a different bowl altogether to discuss Desi politics.

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I have a 401k from my previous employer. With my new employer I started a Roth 401k. My question is what would be the best thing to do with the old 401k? Leave it where it is? Should I move it to an IRA or join it with my new Roth 401k?

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Currently a MS in Finance candidate. Got into the MBA program with a finance concentration at the same school - Johns Hopkins. Don’t care about target , non -target (already happy with my role, industry, firm). What’s more valuable in terms of longer term prospects between the two degrees? Any thoughts or guidance?

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On a job where I feel like the partner just doesn’t see me. He will message other staff about questions or items, but never messages me or talk to me about work, he will just message the manager.

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What are some steps you think your employer can take to make you feel included and to up their retention game? 🤔

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Curious how you would rate your firm for POC.

I’m a campus hire in tas fdd and just wondered if you all had any tips on navigating spaces in my firm while being the only black person in my service line.

I feel like at the end of the day I’m spending too much time trying to figure out if I’m tripping or if something was a micro aggression and it’s tiring.

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Hi Everyone!
I’m a S1 at a mid market firm in Dallas. I’m a CPA, Masters in Accounting and 3-4 years of industry experience (govt/nfp) before public accounting (2-3 years now). I don’t even make 65k ( underpaid, I know). I’m looking to leave PA, but not sure exactly what I want to do. Any advice on career paths outside of full cycle accounting?

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Any Kevin Samuels fans or critics in here? Thoughts?

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Is it bad of me to only either visit or live in a country where the majority voted Democrat? *pic of 2016 election

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Anyone here work for Google or Apple within finance/accounting department ? What is your role?

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Anyone here London based? F, 30. Would be great to network but seems most ppl on here are in the US?

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Anyone else feel like calling out black today? With all this overt racism and extreme white privilege going on in Charlottesville and the lack of response from the White House (expected but still insulting), I feel so disheartened.

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New in my market and just got review feedback that said “this region (the South) is more passive aggressive, we don’t do well with people (I.e. you, from up north) who shoot straight. You’ll also do..

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Does any one feel way behind the curve and wish they had mentors in accounting to speak to on a family level that you can trust and know they really want you to succeed?

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Anyone in the Phoenix area? ASU is putting on a conference tomorrow for black students to experience and network with black professionals. I'll be there.

Has anyone experience any discrimination? I had an SVP once tell me "we grew up so different, I wouldn't get it". She grew up privileged. I always wonder, if she just assumed I had a subpar childhood compared to hers. Never realizing that our childhoods were actually very similar - similar high schools and colleges, at least. She automatically dismissed me a less than in all her actions towards me.

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Anyone in here work for a black owned firm?

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I’m at a recruiting event and a black girl pulls me aside to tell me that she is not comfortable working here. I make that choice to endure discomfort, but she made it clear she doesn’t want to

Curious, how many of us are Greek? I would say the greater majority I've met here are part of the D9

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Can we talk NABA convention? What’s the dress code? I see the welcome reception is “white resort casual” what is that? There is some sort of club night what do people wear to that?

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Just turned 30, and I feel like I was in a box for yrs and I just want to escape for a moment. All the success seems to not make me happy. Does anyone else fell the same ?

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Sometimes I sit and think: we work so hard to be mangers and senior mangers... literally running the show in our projects. Let's start a firm, maybe one day it will be huge!

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