What do you guys think about “never outshine the master” when it comes to your job and your boss. It’s a lesson from Robert Green’s book

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Master??? This sounds like some serious boomer talk. Since I don’t have a “master” and am not a slave, I don’t think this applies to me.

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Lol Deloitte 1 is that one person in the call who doesn’t really have anything constructive to add to the conversation but instead harps on an incredibly obscure part of the conversation that nobody cares about nor asked them for input on. I should’ve stopped reading after I saw your use of “boomer.”

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No one is going to force me to dim my light! I’m going to shine on as I would, no matter who it is.

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YES 🙌🏿

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This was obviously written by an insecure person. A good leader wants good people working for them. Don’t leapfrog your boss to shine in front of others, but if you’ve been given an assignment go for it.

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I say… you do you! If it’s better, then it’s better. Someone else should never put shade on how well you can shine at your job! Ever. Always have respect for your boss, but a real leader recognizes and appreciates talent wherever it presents itself.

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I agree with M1. If you, as a manager, are so insecure and weak to worry about employee accomplishment outshining you, then YOU should never have been made a manager in the first place. It is a common problem in modern business - weaklings in leadership roles that spend all their time in a defensive, politicking posture.

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If your manager is not ok with being “outshined” he’s a terrible manager. Leadership should want to see their team succeed and contribute to bettering the team regardless of rank.

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I’m certainly not saying to call, say, an SVP/C suite out in a public setting, but that likely applies to a select group. This question sounds like it was referring to middle management/direct reports. Even still, the VPs I work with are happy to hear when there’s a better way. Depends on the company for sure, but I’d argue that’s what makes a good leader.

My boss looks damn good because I’m crushing it.

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Lots of comments are misinterpreting what this rule means

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I think wherever you work, you have to use your EQ because I find that with a certain amount of experience and education, others may feel inadequate. I’ve often known things that my boss doesn’t and it’s tricky because outshining your boss publicly is not wise. I’d walk the fine line between being a team player and a shining star.

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Here’s the thing. The master in this context has power and you have relatively less compared to him or her. So why would you outshine the master when you risk their wrath?

Alternatively, learn to build your power base through relationships and friendships and then outshine your boss (who, at that point is NO LONGER “the master) 💡

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OP yes it is good advice. Most of the people on this thread are clearly young in their career, getting wrapped around the language, have not read the book and are grossly missing the point.
It is key when navigating office politics. You can make your boss look good but don’t overshoot him/her in public as it will not serve your career progression.
Good book, highly recommended!

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As with most consultants, the people who have answered in this thread are clueless into the game of influence.

Sounds like a con-man to me

I wish my team would outshine me. Gonna take some time I think. Sigh

1) that sounds toxic af ("master"???)

2) my boss and I don't do the same job so it's not obvious what that would even mean

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