After ~20 years in this business (not my real title), enduring endless, exhausting cycles involving spells of prosperity followed by increasingly inevitable layoffs, I’ve arrived at a place where I hate working in advertising but hate not having work in advertising slightly more (I mean, maybe. It’s close). Seeing as this already volatile industry’s poised to contract violently in the near term, I’d be grateful for your stories of people that have successfully found a way out of this mess. 🙏

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I feel this. You are most of us.

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Client side is the way out

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gradually (over the course of 3 years) worked toward a transition to medical school. now i’m in medical school. and i’m not young.

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Call me stupid but wouldn’t working in accounts set you up nicely to go brand side? Seems like a lot more upward trajectory there.

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Similar position. Managed to get a very good role client side.

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“Spells of prosperity” more of those please. Love that term. And yes to the rest of your experience and goal. Was just thinking this morning about everything you wrote here.

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Start your own thing. After 20+ years you must have contacts and a reputation to trade on?

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Believe it or not, for all the talk of digital... online video subscriptions and downloads JUST overtook DVD sales. People still exist that rent dvds from netflix?

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Was talking to a musician friend who says since he quit working full time, every day feels like the weekend. Meanwhile, in advertising, every day feels like a Tuesday 🙃

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Just realized it's not Friday ☹️

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Brands closing for climate change? Wouldn’t that lost income be more effective/useful if they donated it to clean energy alternatives instead? Do a spot about it to promote it & it’s content. Win. Win

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