Ageism is F-ing real for this 40 yo female who’s good at her job. I saw a job posting for a Digital Marketing Manager position at my current company. I interviewed with Director of Marketing and thought it went well. A month later I saw they hired a young, pretty, blond blue-eyed girl who graduated from college in 2021. That stings. I’m grieving the loss of the job I wanted and dreading each time I pass her in the hallway. Should I quit? feeling undervalued, unappreciated and frikkin old lol

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You’re not old, you’re experienced. You’re not bitter, you’re undervalued. Grieve it, feel it, find a better job, but don’t let their shallow decision rewrite your worth. You're not the problem. They are.

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Yep. 58 you old here. I've been looking for over a year for a new role... I'm starting to loose confidence... stinks. I will keep looking

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The way I would look at that is just be patient, when revenue is not positively impacted then they will see that youth over experience does not drive revenue aka keep the lights on—that’s what matters to a company. I would feel sad that they hired the wrong HR personnel. She obviously doesn’t know what a business needs to grow. Maybe message the director and executives with a “I would love to connect and if anything changes think of me” kind of general and professional message just in case the door reopens if or when things go down -aka revenue - pun intended. I need to heed my own advice , “Always keep your chin parallel to the ground)”. Their loss when you know your value.

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When this happened to me, I quit and find something way better. Trust your instincts and don’t waste anymore time at a place that doesn’t value you.

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Sorry that happened to you too. I’m a bit worried about switching jobs in current market. Any tips?

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I went through this at age 54. I was eventually laid off during an FMLA leave and they hired three gen Z kids to do my job. It told me everything I needed to know about how undervalued I was and how good I was at my job.

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60 here and lost my marketing job due to a merger. Bigger company eliminated duplicate positions. If it is difficult to find a marketing job at 40 and 50…imagine 60+ and I possess many of the digital marketing skills. Even working to stay current in all.

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Having similar experiences as a recently laid-off 41 yo woman. It's infuriating and possibly a sign that it's time to move on from your company. However, the job market is a mess right now from someone who is aggressively job-seeking.

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Sorry you had to go through that. I’m in the middle of a job hunt myself—keeping it quiet for now. And you’re right, the market’s super competitive, especially with companies favoring younger candidates who come in with the latest skills and recent experience. That’s why I think it’s crucial for seasoned pros like us to keep learning and staying current. It’s exhausting, but kind of essential if we want to stay in the game.

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The job market is trash right now. So quitting is a huge risk unless you already have something lined up. I quit my job due to a toxic work environment. I've been unemployed for months now. If anything, wait until there's more of a director type role available to you. I'm guessing they go with the less experienced to avoid paying a higher salary to someone with more experience. I'm in my late 30's and experiencing the same. I look like im in my 20's. Ive been thinking to omit some experience from my resume.

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For starters 40 is not old at all and you are still really young. I am not disagreeing that ageism isn’t real but you typically don’t see that in someone that is still so young. However, if you are feeling unappreciated and undervalued then I would definitely recommend looking to ee what else is out there. It might be time to find something new.

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In my 50s here and facing the same reality. I have always had stellar performance reviews but was let go from my previous company due to budget cuts. I've had 8 interviews in two months but as soon as we get to the video or in-person interview I get ghosted.

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I feel for you. As a 64 yr old Director of Digital Marketing, for some of the largest Personal Injury law firms I know where you coming from and it sucks, really sucks.

Don't quit until you have another job lined up, them you're free to make that decision.

All the best,

Jeff

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Candidly, this sounds like this has more to do with "looks" than any list of job qualifications. Looks doesn't buy you a single thing in the world of digital marketing. Not a darn thing. I would be out there looking for another job. I have worked with a whole team of these 20 somethings for the last few years. NO fun! An entire collection of one trick ponies always needing guidance. Takes 5 of them to figure out to do the simplest thing. In one place, they were constantly whining about this, that, and something else.

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The best way to increase title and pay is to switch companies. I’ve seen this a million times in career. And watch people get hired above me and complete bomb and leave in 3 months.

The woman who hired me into my first adult job told me - you need to force yourself to interview for new jobs at least every year. Thats how you know your worth. And you keep you interviewing muscle.

I’ve followed her career and she’s not been with 3 companies and was a managing director or partner at each. Currently most of my old team works for her at her current firm. That’s a pretty amazing leader. She encourages people to find a better opportunity…yet so many of us keep choosing to work for her.

Plus I think you’re always more desirable to an employer when you already have a job.

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I think you have to explore your feelings bij untangling the various questions you’re mentioning above. Maybe it’s time to leave and find something new. But do you like the company, your role, etc. Is it an ego thing you have to deal with? Or is it bigger than that.

It’s definitely a layered situation. My company has a track record of nepotism, favoritism, and leaning toward younger hires they see as having more “runway.” I stuck around and aimed to grow internally—partly because job hunting is a beast, and partly because I genuinely thought they valued my skills and contributions. That belief gave me the confidence to go for a promotion. But when they chose someone younger and far less experienced, it became clear there were underlying reasons I’ll probably never know—and honestly, I no longer care to. I’ve seen what I need to see. Now I’m playing the long game and quietly planning my exit!

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Ooof, I feel this SO much. The same thing happened to me, but in my mid 20s. I had worked at an organization for 5 years and interviewed for the manager position on my team.

Didn't get the position.

Who did?

The email coordinator who had been there less than a year.

I left the organization shortly after as it was clear I would never be able to climb up the corporate ladder there, after being humiliated like that.

Later, I found out that the email coordinator had been in a relationship with one of the hiring managers who was in a position to make the final decision for the role. Not fair, but nothing I could really do about it. (In case you're wondering, she lasted about 2 months after I left because she couldn't lean on me to do her job as a manager.)

Take comfort in that it's not you, but there may be other factors in play with these decisions, some which are not always right.

IWhat they don't realize is that the older you get, the harder you work. When you reach the age, you are no longer distracted by "life," such as pregnancy, marriage, children, or getting a babysitter if the kids are sick—everything people in their twenties think about or have to worry about. Not to mention, they are always on their phone 24/7. Give me a break! They probably hired the twenty-something because they knew they could pay her less. Start looking for other jobs. Nothing better than saying bye-bye if you are underappreciated.

Oh man--- This thread has scared me to death.. 2 yrs ago-- after a massive layoff at my company I was a managing VP-- I went back to school and have been full time finishing up on my BS--Strategic Communications- summa cum laude. I will be done in Dec 2025. I was excited.. I figured with my background in finance (30 yrs) and a Comms degree, I would be in good shape to transition over, looks like I may be wrong.. I am 55 and have busted my hump trying to get done in 2 yrs, any suggestions?

I’m your age. The work I was doing in 2017 is now almost all outsourced abroad.

I’ve had to compete for some jobs with people 10 years younger and pathological liars.


But yes the ageism is real which to me is why I’m trying to be as ambitious as possible before I hit 45

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