America: where even terrorists can buy guns

https://www.thetrace.org/2016/01/internet-gun-sales-background-checks/

"But because the guns were purchased in private sales, there were no safeguards to prevent their illicit purchases from going through. Private sellers can ask buyers whether they have criminal records or other prohibiting factors; their customers can lie, and the seller has no way to check. When a sale goes through a licensed dealer — whether it originates from a computer keyboard, or with the buyer driving straight to a nearby gun store on a whim to add to his collection — that sale will involve a background check, which from 1998 to 2015 blocked sales to more than 2.5 million purchasers with personal histories designating them too high-risk to own a firearm."

This is why we should have background check for every type of sale. It actually works.

I think the point that we are trying to make is that federal law should just go ahead and fix the problem instead of leaving it up to 50 individual states to do it.

I mean, consultants are supposed to be experts in efficiency... Right?

There is no federal law requiring any special steps for private transactions. States set their own laws. For example, in Ohio, there is no background check required for private sales, and the only requirement is that you must not knowingly sell to someone who cannot own/posses a firearm.

Pwc1, why don't you go ahead and sit the next few plays out. You can totally buy a gun from a private owner without the other person having to do the name due diligence as an FFL holder.

Here, let me just paste some text that I copied from the ATF's website. "Any person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of the State where he resides as long as he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law."

Second amendment was for a reason you liberals. Go away.

OP you don't understand the second amendment. You watch too much late night shows.

@D2 you sure in the hell don't understand. Wtf you bashing him for?

Only 18 states and DC have one type of background checks. That isn't a myth.

And if we're so concerned with our nation's welfare - probably should take a second look at the importation of thousands of Syrians. Sure the vast majority are fine, but all it takes is one ISIS adherent right? Safety über alles!

^ That's the biggest myth from the right - that we want to take away gun. I already said background checks for every sale. If you are law-abiding, then you can buy all the guns you want. No one cares about you, just stopping idiots from killing people.

Nuy

NRA doesn't support no fly list. The other ones they do

@D3 you are a retard. They already require that. For online sales the gun has to be shipped to a licensed dealer by a licensed dealer. Let me spell this out for all of you uneducated jerks. If person A post a gun sale online and person B wants it. Person B goes to a licensed dealer. Asks if it is ok to do the transaction through the store. Person B's dealer agrees and has person B fill out a background check. They fail it's over, they pass then ok. Person A has a licensed dealer perform the necessary steps to send the firearm to personB's dealer. Person B dealer receives the firearm and reviews it to make sure it is an allowable firearm by federal law. If it passes then person B comes and gets it.

Meanwhile, I can't even fucking open another Chase credit card because of the 5/24 rule they have...

There is no more need for the second amendment- that's so primitive

I just stated that same info with an example. Besides if you sold one direct to me without doing it the proper way. Federal crime

Online of course typically you need to go through the transfer process because you are likely crossing state lines. And even if not web based transactions are regulated as interstate commerce even if they occur between two parties in the same state

Well what I described is done in Pa and Va

@PwC1 I don't understand what you are trying to say here. The background check obviously do not apply to all situations, so why do you keep repeating yourself when someone brings new information to the discussion? I don't care about semantics of whether something is a "federal crime". The fact that you can only charge such federal crime when someone is caught using an illegal gun is the most concerning. I am arguing for preventative controls because it will save lives.

Well obviously state reform is needed. Told you I know pa and va

This is trolling because this format/platform is not the place to have a real, meaningful discussion about this issue.

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