Currently a senior analyst and have been working in analytics for about 6 years. Struggling to get to the manager level, despite top performance reviews and managing direct reports in previous roles. Have moved around a bit (average length in role 1.5 years) which undoubtedly has been a factor. Any advice on how to get to the next level? It seems near impossible to make an external move to manager without a Manager title.

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Managing is a practice just like Analytics. Think about how much time you spend training, educating, and practicing those skills.

You need to do the same for management.

Educate yourself on:
1. Project Management
2. Effective communiction
3. Conflict resolution
4. Capacity Planning
5. Scheduling
6. Effective Presentations

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I was a job hopper stuck at the sr analyst level, and finally just had to stick in a role for 2.5 or so years to get promoted

The trick is to focus on big cross-team projects for more exposure. Tell your manager you want to be promoted to manager, and work with them to make it happen. There really aren’t many “surprise” promotions, you have to ask for it.

Other things that help:
- finding low priority, high value items that you can pitch and deliver
- schmooze with your skip level
- make sure people in your org know you

But overall if you’re getting good performance reviews, I think you just need to be more vocal about wanting a promotion IMO

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Are you guys hiring?

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He was making a joke that not being forced into manager level (like in the traditional up and out model of consulting) is attractive to him. I don’t believe he is actually wondering if one of the largest companies on earth is hiring or not.

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I assume your manager and director know management's where you want to go? If not, that's step one. If yes, follow up with them about progress and/or what's realistic.

Unlike in consulting, management in industry isn't really a promotion but a lateral move into a different kind of role. You can't expect people to just up you into it as part of a cycle. That still can happen, but you need to be the best person for the job at the right time, which doesn't come around often--new analysts are needed frequently, while new managers... aren't. If you want your bosses to do something inconvenient like needlessly split the team to get you a title and/or experience, you've got to ask for it.

Unrelated, also look up dotted line reporting. May make it easier to find you a team if the conversation goes in the direction of "we just don't have enough people to make you M and won't be growing for a while."

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A few ideas:
1. Have you made it clear internally (to your manager) that you want to cross tracks into ppl leadership?

If yes - ask for pointed, actionable advice on what it would take to secure his endorsement for manager opportunities. You may be missing something they need / want and this can help you work on what matters for 6 - 12 months

If no - IME / IMO that is your first step, you can’t be guided or led to a destination nobody knows about but you. Be “pleasantly annoying” about career goals.

2. If you’re looking externally, does your resume say “ready to manage a team” or does it say “rockstar IC”? Think of IC -> leader as a career change, seek a resume writer to help ensure you look the part.

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