Does anyone else feel like they don't know how to do anything? After years working in the big tech corporate world, in a business role, I just feel like I have 0 valuable skills or ability to make a tangible difference. I cannot code, cannot sell, cannot do deep data analysis, cannot design 😓

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They call those middle managers and these are the same people companies are letting go and will have a difficult time landing a job in this market. Always good to be a hands on leader that has technical skill sets.

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Where in my comment does micro managing come?

The problem isn't you. It is companies using wordsmiths and AI to write job descriptions. Every company thinks they are a household name brand. (They aren't) The job descriptions are loaded with far too many adjectives and superlatives.

Example: R&T, the Northern Hemisphere's globally leading provider is seeking a shaman-level expert in cross-functional manual manipulation of the non-gender specific, subcutaneous homo sapien musculoskeletal interfacing systems while positioned on the x axis in either supine or prone relativity functioning in a low illumination ecosystem enhanced with multi-tonal auditory stimuli produced by pre-recorded electronic means under licensure of appropriate authorities at the state or local level of government oversight. BDSM Degree in Phrenology, astrophysics, machine learning, or GED and 135 years experience preferred.

Just tell me you are looking for a massage therapist!

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EXACTLY 💯

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Can you write decks, understand the user experience and manage people? Once you realize you’re making the $1M decisions while someone who codes is making the $5k decisions, it can help frame your role

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For sure, I love working with our Eng teams. But “leadership” and other soft skills shouldn’t be undervalued.

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You're ready to be CEO now.

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He didn't say he excels at making the worst possible decision. He's more a VP or Director role.

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This is not uncommon in a big tech company. Office politics and PIP culture force people into safe support teams that are going nowhere where the work is necessary. The golden handcuffs are hard to shake. Go work for a smaller company and you are forced to learn and do all the things.

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Your feeling of inadequacy is likely imposter syndrome.

I too, say I can’t do these things. But I am able to do just enough to help my teams deliver.

I can’t code, but I can QA and adequately write an issue for bugs and I can write technical documentation to the point where developers think a dev wrote it.

I can’t design, but I can sketch something up to communicate an idea.

I can’t sell, but I know how to talk to someone to understand what is driving value for them and can appropriately prioritise what work gets done first so my GTM teams can succeed and sell.

Data analysis is always surface deep and nuanced—you do what you can to communicate insights to your teams. No one needs a multi-page report with thousands of lines of SQL to understand trends.

It’s all about your perspective and the unique value you can offer. Keep it up in therapy.

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I can sell. But companies are looking for new blood who come in on peanuts not wages.

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You must know how to do something if you've had a job at it for years. Just sit down and do some brainstorming about your transferable skills. Think about what you can do, and maybe what you'd like to do. And if you're so inclined, move on and do those things somewhere else.

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Sees all my managers in an echo chamber meeting for 8 hours a day. Sure, keeping the job means he knows how to do something...

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We all are going to have some kind of shortcoming, nobody knows everything from all the sides. Focus and appreciate what you know and if you really want to work towards something else, that is great too. You don’t have to feel like you need to do it out of comparison to everyone else.

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“No one knows everything” means you’ve never worked with the small group of people that do.

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It's ok. Most managers can't do anything, but they are not required to. So who cares, as long as you can navigate politics well enough - you are golden.

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Hmm, sounds like a good retrospection, however that seems to be caught up at wrong side of the stick plus mid life crises :)

Well on a serious note, you are not alone my friend. All of us go through that and go really hard on us about looking at the surroundings and finding stranded with a high commotional motorway of ever evolving technology stack and disruptive industry dynamics, so trust me you are not alone.

I think an important note is to first understand what is that skill/uniqueness you bring onto the table (I am sure you have handful of them else you would not be in industry for such long time, or you are extremely lucky to survive being not good at anything).

Now comes the overall introspection about your perspective about yourself and also are you into comparison mode; what is your playground, are you really getting into comparison with perhaps those who are with different background??

A philosophical angle to understand is first to know and define what is that you love to do and want to do, trust me and I really mean it trust me, you are the the only BEST PERSON to know this and the answer to your question is also yourself. Speak to yourself, others can share their experience which may or may not relevant to what you are looking for and good to have a perspective from others to feed your thought process but at the end it is YOU, So relax and give yourself time reflect on what is that you can really do good and then you will not be having any such doubts on yourself.

God bless and all the very best !!

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Whether you believe you can or not, you’re right…get out of your own way and learn how to fill the knowledge gaps—even if you stumble assuming the way. That’s where your gratitude (later) comes from…you got this!

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There are a million things in the IT industry to learn. No one can be a "specialist" in all of them. You are either a generalist (which it sounds like you are.) or you are a specialist. Get a few certs that show you're management track, such as the ITIL Strategist. Or, go down the path of getting an advanced post-grad degree like an MBA or a Masters in something like IT Management.

They don't necessarily help immediately, but they will in the long run. In the meantime, apply to anything and everything that meets your pay requirements and will give you a chance to use what skills you've got while learning new ones.

Also, like a few of the other comments suggest, you're probably only looking at the things you can't do, not at the things you can do. Are you good at process development? Customer service? Relationship building? Any and all of those are skills that are very valuable in the professional world, even in IT.

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ITIL is not going to be anything that’ll help you as a skillet, nothing technical about it. The most worthless cert I’ve ever obtained.

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I know what you mean. The company I worked for was never first to adopt any new technology or processes. I knew the business and technology for that company. After 22 yrs, I got laid off, Now I read these job descriptions and these companies want the moon and the stars in their new hire. That person does not exist. And I have a feeling the job does not exist either. Just a random ghost job posting to make the company look like they are hiring.

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Tech is notoriously prone to make us all feel this way. Whether a lower level technical support role, or at my level, or as a CIO, the fluidity in the field is a challenge. What you learned and do and know has a fairly short relevant lifetime. At least it feels that way. How does anyone measure against a field where the core parts change rapidly and often? Think of other business roles (accountants, marketing managers, etc.). The rules and general procedures of those roles change much more slowly, so it is easier to measure one’s competence and performance.

A good way to advance is to realize you are working and so must be achieving enough in your present role. Now start thinking about your future desired role and start accruing skills toward it, even if you need to do so outside workplace settings. That version of you will be the one that accelerates your career.

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Well said! At least as a CIO you are not expected to perform the technical tasks that can get super complex as long as you understand them it’s all that matters. I like having a leader that does, I don’t mind doing the rest and executing your vision. :)

I’ve been fortunate to work with great management and be a hands on manager my self doing the work right with my team.

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Comparison is the thief of joy. Try to focus on what you can do, have done and try to figure out how you can translate that into the skills and achievements. Its hard to word smith so leverage what is out there on the internet and chatgpt to craft that.

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Agreed. You might have to "polish" up after using AI, but I have found doing this very useful

Thank you for this, OP. I share 100% of what you describe. I feel like I’m backed into a corner and have nowhere to go. I feel that I have no useful skills or valuable abilities. I am looking into a total career change some corporate/tech/business……

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Assess the skills you currently possess, such as managing technical teams or collaborating with external contractors. These are valuable and highly relevant capabilities. As a technical director, having a solid foundation of basic skills enables you to learn and adapt to newer technologies. Not everyone possesses the advanced skills mentioned earlier, so your existing expertise is a strong starting point.

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That's understandable considering the rapid pace that technology keeps occurring! Depending on which source you read, its confusing to determine which emerging technology is the best. A.I., Cloud Computing, Cybersecurity, Coding, etc. My suggestion would be find which ONE compliments your current skills and assets.

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I feel somewhat same. I used to work as an IC for years and I remember I received a lot of recognition for my great performance and impacts I created.

And after I was transferred to managerial role I suddenly start felt I am not doing anymore excellent work although managed my team well in both their performance and growth.

After some years now I keep asking myself what I am doing greatly and what significant impact I am creating in my role. But I can't find any solid answer. So I am bit of confuse now whether this is end of my career or I am still eligible for a job role and excel on it.

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