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It may be the reality for the majority, but it’s not acceptable. That VP should take a course in people leading. That statement is likely going to negatively impact the culture and morale of the company immediately.
It’s how nearly all male executives over 55 think that have a stay at home wife that handles everything so they can go to the office and do conference calls.
It's been said, but a majority of upper management that still holds to the "you can only work in the office" mentality is stuck in the past. "Be happy you have a job" as an excuse for their lack of managing ability is always a red flag. I know you can't really say, but I wish there was a way to label the "Jamie Diamonds" of the world so we know to avoid their toxic influence.
wow! what an ass. While it may be true in practice, to actually come out and say it to everyone was really stupid
Care to share the company as a warning sign for the rest of us?
A lot of upper management has been around so long that they have no idea what the front lines positions are like. I started in the industry in 1988 and it was a cool job back then. WLB for days and then some. The situation changed in the late 90s When PCs entered the picture in a big way. We could get more done and got more to do. And here we are today, so "productive".
The company I worked for had around 3,500 employees in '88 when I started and it had around 3,500 employees when I retired in '17. The company's reserves/size are about 6 times bigger. The math is pretty easy to grasp. Glad to be out of there and on my own working as an IA in semi retirement. That VP should be fired as he is pretty much demanding that all the good people who can do better leave the company. What a sh%tty leader...
It's sad to say but your manager knows he can take advantage of you because the job market favors the employer. Doesn't mean you shouldn't be looking for a new job but it might take a while.
Honestly I hate to say this but yes, it’s taking people 7+ months to find work
Is he right? Maybe. But clearly he is taking advantage of employees and capitalizing on the fact that employers are favored in this market. Period. But is it really necessary for them to bleed their employees so executives like him can collect fat paychecks, take long lunch “meetings”, play golf, vacation on yachts, etc while their stay at home wives groom their elite children to get free rides in Ivy League colleges all on the backs of their employees working 60+ hours a week just to scrape by? No it’s not necessary and I highly doubt said executive has ever had to walk in his employees’ shoes. As you can tell, I feel strongly that the worker bees and the large companies we work for exist solely for the purpose of lining the pockets of people like him.
It should be a trade off.
However, if they are saying no promotion/bonus potentia;l be happy to have job oh and take a pay cut because we're not giving you a raise and are increasing your share of health insurance payments etc on top of no WLB start looking elsewhere.
If on the other hand there's a comp program in place where you are rewarded for that work, aggressive bonus targets but equally aggressive bonuses, quicker promotion potential or potential to be poached by a competitor and brought it at a higher level - then it's on you to decide what's important at this time in your life.
Unfortunately, you may have to integrate a work life balance on your own. I would ignore whatever the VP stated. But what a negative message!
Knowing "which" company would be beneficial. Can you give us a clue or send a DM? Sounds like a company with government contracts (yes/no)?
What company?
Unfortunately, workers have never been able to dictate business practices. Even unionizing has proved fruitless as unionized workers have relinquished pensions, health benefits, and work conditions in favor of a boost in salary. The only thing left within the employee control is to choose where they will work and how much they will contribute while they are there. In the flip side, employers risk losing tenured employees and employee loyalty since they become nothing more than a means to an end. Honestly, many employers don't care as long as their bottom line and RIO remain acceptable to the board. With the advent of AI and the ability to outsource work globally for pennies on the dollar, the manager speaking is not far off the mark when he shares to be thankful for the job you have. For those of you that are young enough, I would encourage you to look at training in service fields such as electrical, plumbing, HVAC etc that can't be outsourced since the work is here and really can't be accomplished by AI. But bear in mind that those would not be RFH positions either. My point in all of this is to educate that in most cases this less about an 55+ manager and more about how the work culture and approaches to our work change with the advent of technology and economic imbalance that exists between the US and third world countries that are hungry for the work.