Hello ladies,

I have a coaching and (Org Dev) consulting company and one thing I hear often, especially from BIPOC women in leadership is that they do not feel supported in their roles and often don't have anyone to work through work issues with - outside of venting to their friends.

Context: I was an in-house coach and consultant before braving entrepreneurship after being laid off last year and I remember it being true for me too at times.

Does this resonate with any of you?

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I would only hire a coach who was more successful than I am. Otherwise it’s a self-help book with lipstick.

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😂 I like that. Im curious though, how do you measure success? Like I wouldn’t hire a coach that has never either scaled the corporate ladder or successfully started and scaled a business we. We don’t speak the same language. 😊

If yes - what is stopping you from hiring a coach?

I’m sorry that that was
A question that I recommend people ask is
“Can you give me 2-3 examples where your client’s benefited from working with you? Without dropping names or companies, which of your coaching clients were a success and why?” And the opposite of that - an example where they felt like they took on a client that wasn’t a good fit and why.

As an industry, outside of the obvious buckets like fitness, nutrition, grief etc. we still haven’t worked though the different TYPES of coaching coaches can and should be categorizing themselves under and what coachees should expect from working with them.

I hired a Transformation Coach several years ago Don’t judge me 😄 I’m a mediate and sage the room type of (former) corporate girlie. This was at the height of my burn out.
They didn’t know that I was a coach but they had a huge social media following and between the social media presence, a website that showed they’d been featured in some impressive publications (I now doubt the legitimacy of some of them 😅) - I hired someone based on popularity and vibes basically. 🤦🏾‍♀️

The discovery call was GREAT! I didn’t ask the questions I do now but knew immediately after our first session that we were not a good fit. They basically TOLD me what I needed to do without taking the time to get to know me.
That’s a big red flag and is a telltale sign of a novice, lazy, or transactional coach. They have a “template” and set questions they ask, and spend the majority of the time telling you what to do vs helping you get to, commit to and follow through on, the solutions that work best for you and your situation.

Did this make this individual a bad coach? Not necessarily. Some people want to be told what to do. I’m not one of them. Suggestions? Great. But I like owning my decisions and allowing others to do the same. 🤷🏾‍♀️
They just weren’t what I needed and definitely not what I was expecting at their price range. I walked away from our last conversation feeling like I’d given THEM coaching on how to be better coaches.😂

Having a coaching certification doesn’t necessarily make one an expert, and I strongly believe that at a certain price point, and clientele, folks need to bring more to the table - a genuine interest in and desire to help people and measurable results.

Anywho, thanks for sharing your experience btw. 🙏🏾

I think it’s a dog eat dog world and don’t expect to be supported by anyone out of charity - only if it benefits them in some way. I get my support from friends and family. I have worked with a coach before but for a defined period of time and in order to navigate a particular hurdle. Once that goal is met, I move on, and sometimes loop back for another round for another issue. Example 1 - finding a new job, Example 2 - negotiating compensation, Example 3 - building a case for promotion. The coach was helpful for self reflection, accountability, and encouragement. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy. You don’t see as many men doubting themselves.

Yesssss! 💯

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