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Hi all,
I joined KPMG around 3 months ago but I am not getting work here. Although, I qualified some project's interview, yet due to some internal reason, they considered someone else, and I again came on bench.
I am unable to figure out what can be done now.
Should I start searching work outside.
(I hardly see any job openings these days)
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How's the resource management here?
(do they lagOff?)
Any inputs will be helpful.
Thanks!
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It’s your first job. Starting any new job feels like this after a month. You’ve barely given it a chance at this point, and there’s still a lot to learn and get the hang of.
Stick it out, gain some experience, and if you still don’t like it after a year start looking elsewhere.
I agree Digitas. Give it 6 mos to a year because it’s your first job. Later in your career, 5ish yrs out, act on that instinct then.
You’re getting great advice here. But it doesn’t seem to be landing. So I’ll give you the advice you’re waiting to hear... “Quit today, now. Hold out for a job that gives you everything you want and make sure they deliver ‘everything’on day one. Life is short and there’s no time to ‘pay your dues’ like everyone else starting out.”
No company is going to have an entry level person making important strategic decisions off the bat— you first need to just be sitting in meetings, reading emails, taking notes, and soaking in ad terminology/client needs.
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You’re not going to get mindblowing opportunities in your first month when you’re green. They’re sussing you out, you’re sussing them out. 3-6 months in you should be in the groove enough with relative mastery that you’re able to consistently be adding value (vs functioning mechanically) — that’s when your managers should be throwing you more interesting and potent stuff
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1. Focus on learning as much as you can and be vocal about your ambition / seeking more opportunity
2. Recognize that someone on your team who has a lot of other responsibilities has to pause those responsibilities to teach you things bc you don’t know everything yet
3. Try to learn more about what other people do so you can see what track you want to grow into or what workstreams you want to touch more of
4. Try to learn more about what your work contributes to or enables, and how you can provide more value
5. Set up a 2x monthly 1:1 with your manager to discuss growth and work
Lol welcome to the real world, it sucks! Adjusting to work life after an entire life in school takes A LOT of time...it took me a few years tbh.
But it sounds like maybe you want to be more on the creative side? Sounds like maybe strategy at one of the consumer shops? Good news is, it’s relatively easy to make the switch as a junior. Start looking now - it’ll take a little while. Get your talk track down - something like “i love my job, I know I want to be a strategist I just want to be involved with the creation of what the messages say vs where they show up”
You are at a media shop, that is the problem. Do extra curricular strategy bits, join the communities, join the planner challenges and the creative challenges to sharpen briefs. Team up with a creative (art) and do some writing.
Slide in my DMs and I’ll ping you some things I taught at the Miami ad school.
For now focus on what you are getting out of your job, structure, big client interaction, see how they do “strategy” - learn from it.
I was a New Business monkey for a year and writing competitive analysis proactively/helping creatives before I was allowed to touch my first brief. You’ll get there, but it won’t be tomorrowz
If it's a toxic environment, then get out ASAP.
If it's because you're not getting the opportunities you want, be more patient. It's been a month.
You're just out of school. Many people across many industries are still in the fetching-coffee stage or looking-for-work stage.
If you realize you don't like the industry as a whole, start figuring out what industry you might like and plot a path, while staying in your current job.
honestly don't know if i can do this account-only stuff for 6 months.... but thanks
I think your idea of strategy is more glamorized as being part of the larger big picture whereas when you start out, you'll do these mindless tasks for a bit
I have 5 years of experience and my first month at my job was all small tasks and catching up on things. It’s actually very kind of your team to not throw you in the middle of everything!
i guess my client isn't one of the ones with a lot of strategy involved then :/ i don't know what to do
Take it from someone who was just thrown into the fire with little to no training, it’s nice to start off at a steady pace. It doesn’t last long.
I know these tasks seem menial, but try to look at it from a lens of “This is my foundation. If I can nail the basics, they’ll start trusting me with more strategy related tasks.”
If you truly find your day to day unbearable right now, I’m sorry. :( I know the feeling.
I think leaving before the year long mark could be risky. But I also understand that some jobs and some teams legit suck at mentoring. Good luck!
All jobs start with admin work. You have no experience so starting with the “boring” stuff helps acclimate you to your company/department/client/boss/role. Find ways to innovate and improve what you are doing.
Seek mentorships with people who do the jobs you are interested and ask them how they got there.
You have to learn the basics and how things work first. They aren’t going to make you responsible for big picture strategic thinking on day one, or probably even in year one. You have to put in the work and learn the craft. It will likely be this way at any sizable agency.
As someone who has worked in media strategy since graduating from college (3.5 years now), the junior roles tend to take on more of the tedious work and as you step into higher level it becomes more strategic and client-relationship managing based. I see it getting more interesting & exciting as you move up the ladder.
It’s not the same type of strategy that I was expecting after graduating, and I while don’t LOVE it, I do like it. It’s a good background to have that can transfer to client, sales, or vendor side if you want to eventually move into a different route.
I will add that a lot of the perks of working at an agency come from the fun office culture and since we’re all WFH it is INCREDIBLY different than how it used to be. The people I used to see every day in the office and our fun events really made me love my job- now it feels just “blaaahh”
One month in, recent grad... you’re developing your instincts and figuring out what you want. That’s gonna take time.
As you figure it out, and deal with the discomfort, be sure to take care of yourself. Spend time reflecting away from the job, keep in touch with your friends and family, folks whose perspective you trust.
You will be the one at the end of the day who knows if something is right for you, or not.
Maybe.
It’s up to you how to spend your time. 💚
As someone who hopped around a bit when I was starting out due to opportunities not being exactly as described, I think you should stick it out. It's true you're green, you're just starting out and trust me that all of these annoying tasks will only make you better in strategy AND account. I'm at an AD level now and even if some of the roles haven't been what I wanted, I've learned so much from each opportunity and have leveraged all of them to grow in my career. You are probably learning a lot and just don't realize it yet. Plus, it can cost you future opportunities if you don't stick it out because people do focus on the fact that someone hops around (I've had to answer to it a lot). I got great advice from a manager once: Don't leave a job until you feel like you've learned all you can from it.
As long as it's not a toxic environment where you're being mistreated, I would suggest powering through it. You'll be grateful to have this really good foundation and it'll be something you can use to land an even better job in the future. Account work totally does suck but ask yourself if you're learning key foundational work that will only help you be better in the long run. That's what you should be focusing on now that you're early in your career. The harder you work now, the more opportunity will come your way. You'd be surprised how many people just coast and do the bare minimum. Being someone who is willing to do what they need to do and supports their team will go a really long way in the eyes of senior management. I promise one day you'll look back at this job and it'll just be a memory, but the skills you learn will last your entire career. Hope this helps!
Agree with Manager 1. I would wait at least a year. I know things are also extra crappy since you can’t blow off steam by getting out and actually enjoying life but try to hang in there! If you are really miserable maybe speak to your boss and say you really love research and would welcome extra opportunities to help with that whenever possible as a way to learn more about it. Hopefully they are supportive and want to help you find your niche in this industry. If you think it would raise red flags then just try to power through the boring stuff - I promise it gets better once you find what you really love doing. And once you’ve learned the basics start looking for something more in line with what you wan to focus on.
Try to be patient. It will get better as you learn more and are given more responsibility. It takes more than a month to integrate into a job.
Insight from a former Assistant Brand Strategist at Horizon: you won’t be making any decisions concerning strategy. You’ve gotta earn your stripes by owning the menial/administrative tasks first. But turnover is so high, that if you work your ass off, you have a TON of upward mobility at Horizon (like 4 promotions in 2 years sort of thing haha).
That’s a question for the people you work with.
Post this in the “Strategy & Planning” bowl too. Might get some more input re the strat lens.
I haven’t worked at Horizon, but I’ve interviewed there. I think Horizon’s job titles are a little funky and in my opinion, misleading. The brand strategists are really just media planners. I believe what you might be interested in is a small department in Horizon called the “WHY” group... they do a ton of custom quant and social listening research and strategy development across all the big accounts.
I spent the first few years of my career as a media planner in another agency. I wanted to join the strategy team, so after 6 months I raised my hand to do proactive extra work for them. This was extra hours, but I loved it. Eventually they offered me a role! Now 10+ years on, I’m a brand strategist freelancing for creative and brand agencies.
Be comfortable with your journey not being linear. The twists and turns and detours are what make you interesting! And as a strategist you can’t afford to not have an interesting background...
I second this
OP sounds like planning, not strategy. He/she might be looking to be part of the WHY group instead
Wait— is it that you thought when you took the job everything you wanted/needed was going to be laid out and presented to you just how you’d want it?
That RARELY happens.
If your role doesn’t have any/enough strategy, YOU’RE THE EXPERT. Bring in Strategy! Go through all the painpoints of anyone else trying to change their work environment to what they want it to be (pushback from your boss, others dragging their feet b/c they hate change, etc) and make your job what you want it to be.
Getting the job was the first hurdle. Don’t hang up your track shoes yet— you still have a long way to go.
"it's not fun"
Lol welcome to the club...
Give it a chance. Otherwise on your resume it will look like YOU didn’t work out. And you don’t want to have to explain to a new employer why you weren’t willing to do everything asked of you, whether it met your expectations or not.