I feel like this conversation comes around every so often but do you feel like degrees are still helpful in getting you a job? Would you still advocate for people to go into debt to go to school in order to get a job?

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I definitely consider an applicant who has a degree over one who just has self-study. It shows they have a good foundation of the basics at a bare minimum. But I look at portfolios over everything else.

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That's fair, but based on your answer then, it also seems like if someone has been building up work to showcase in a portfolio and the quality is good then degree vs no degree isn't a deal breaker! Feel like this is a shift that we're seeing more and more of

At the moment, I think 4 year degrees are still kind of baseline requirement for most jobs (maybe not quite as much in the creative world but for the most part yes). In 5-10 years I'm not so sure. I genuinely don't know if I will send my kids to college if they have other technical/trade interests.

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Yea I think I agree. It's still the most streamlined way of getting jobs and it's a quick baseline check for most companies but it does seem like the most effective way is if you can start building a portfolio of work early which may be harder to do when you're younger.

I would say it depends on where you want to work. The companies will let you know that. I am a freelancer now, so my degree doesn't matter anymore now that I have a nice portfolio, and I have friends who make good money only with their portfolio to show (they do. have a degree)

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I do feel like I see "or relevant work experience" way more in job descriptions now compared to before so I do feel like there is a shift. Being able to showcase work that you've done in the field has always been the key thing that will land you jobs so it makes sense that we're seeing a larger shift this way

I think degrees do matter but it depends on the industry. Some industries you really do not need a degree, and other industries you do. I wouldn't advocate going into debt unless you know for sure it is going to help you.

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I agree that degrees matter as well and I do think that college itself is valuable. I would just advocate to find the most cost effective institution you could go to without going into debt if possible so that you still have a degree to fall back on but really focus on building a body of work during your time at school since that's the most important factor in really landing a job and beating out competitors

It all depends on the job and the skill level. I don’t believe you have to have a degree to be good at a job, you just have to learn how to do the job.

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Fair. And I think that's probably always been the case, but degrees and colleges were the most efficient way for a mass amount of people to get to that point. The question for the future I guess is if going to college becomes increasingly expensive for most people, at what point will that cost outweigh the benefit of going for most industries

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