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I’ve put myself up for L4 promo this cycle. Assuming I get it, what would be the best next steps to optimize for long-term growth/TC?
My understanding is that L5->L6 is extremely painful at Google. It may be easier to leave for a handful of years and gain managerial experience before returning.
L4->L5 is less challenging; however, I’m under the impression I can do this quicker at another company (if I leave after being freshly promo’d) AND get higher TC.
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About to head to the HC for a role in ProdOps and Strategy in Mountain View. 4 YoE at MBB, no competing offers. Recruiter gave me a form that asks expected comp.
Levels.fyi has only PM salaries. I haven’t been told the level but expect it to be L4.
What total comp would you expect for this role? Any advice would be super helpful, as I’m a bit lost.
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I have applied to several positions up Google. I have not heard anything back at all. No matter if I customize my résumé to the job description I still don’t hear anything back. I am wondering as to why Google ghost people instead of just telling them that they didn’t get the job? Do people on Google believe it is appropriate for the recruiters just a ghost people especially if they feel they don’t match the job?
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The HM is based in Seattle but the key stakeholder is in the Bay Area. IMO being based in Seattle and occasionally traveling to the Bay Area would be the best way…
SF or Sunnyvale. Pays better than Seattle. And if you want to relocate later to a cheap(er) territory it’s much easier to do so versus going from Seattle (tier 2) to a tier 1 location (Bay Area, NYC).
Also - your 4 year equity grant when you sign is anchored to your starting territory. If you transfer later only your base salary (and future equity grants) is adjusted. So go to the bay. Secure the bigger equity grant. Then reconsider if necessary in the future.
Sunnyvale
It’s difficult to give you a recommendation without knowing more about you. So I responded Sunnyvale based on my own preference. Reasons:
- Lived in Seattle for 11 yrs and Mountain View for 13 yrs. Hated the Seattle weather, loved the South Bay weather. Even SF weather ain’t that great.
- Homeless and crime is big issue in Seattle and SF. Less so in the Valley.
- I prefer the vibe and culture in the South Bay
- Career wise these are all a wash IMO (for people in hi tech like us). Maybe slight advantage to HQ proximity but G is very distributed.
- Housing is just as bad across all locations. Not sure if schools are a factor for you. SF pretty bad in that department.
- No income tax in WA, but for me the sunshine is worth the extra cost.
Again, all that is just me.
What kind of lifestyle do you want? If you want easy access to urban amenities (public transit, nightlife, dining, SF is best. You get to be in the city, and take Gbus to Sunnyvale if needed. And SF is better than Seattle, imo, due to better transit, better weather, friendlier people, and more tech exit opportunities.
If you want to live in the suburbs and drive everywhere, Sunnyvale is the better choice.
Career growth won't vary too much. Promotion doesn't depend on location, but if you want to transfer teams/roles in the future, there are many more options in the bay area than in Seattle.
What about NYC?
Not an option